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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Stingray: [QB] First off: Omega, since you're working in a library and are thoroughly surrounded by books now, you might want to crack a math book or two every now and then. [i]"The Olympic doesn't fit your hypothetical graph in any sense. Neither does the Constellation, nor the Steamrunner, nor the Akira herself. Back to the Olympic, I can hear a response: "The Olympic takes cues from the Daedalus." If that's the case, then why can't the Akira take cues from Enterprise? Or does it only work when we see the chronologically-first ship first? Enterprise violates almost everyone's preconceived idea of what a 2150s starship should look like, including my own. It doesn't violate any canonical description of that era, and has a direct parallel in the Daedalus/Olympic lineage. Maybe Starfleet went with a retro theme in the 2350s, and built the Olympic and Akira in homage to the Daedalus and Enterprise. Maybe there have historically been analogues that haven't made it on screen. We don't know."[/i] Something I neglected to point out in my original post was the concept of averages in the graph. Similar to what I said about the Akiraprize being WAY OFF the graph, not everything is perfectly lined up. The graph, scientifically, is actually an average of all the data points (starships). In my example, ships that hit the average to start with are Enterprise ships (Constitution, Excelsior, Galaxy, Sovereign, Ambassador). However, there are points that are slightly off the graph. This happens all the time in real science. Different designs would fall either just below or just above the curve. To illustrate, Miranda/Neb types would fall just above the curve, and Constelation/Cheyenne would fall just below the curve. I also take it that the Akira is the Miranda/Neb of the Sovereign family and falls accordingly on the graph. Please remember that this is only an illustration. Engineering is actually separate from science, I'm just applying scientific concepts to an engineering concept. BUT ABOVE ALL: Starship designing is not automotive engineering. It's more akin to some combination between aerospace and maritime engineering. And aircraft and ships look the ways they do because they serve specific functions. To use aircraft as an example. Aircraft exist in the forms they do because (A) they have to fulfill certain functions and requirements and (B) have to do so while dealing with [b]aerodynamics[/b]. [b]Aerodynamics[/b], in tandem with functional requirements, largely dictates what the shape of a plane looks like. We know a lot about [b]aerodynamics[/b] these days. Give my five years and I'll tell you everythng you ever wanted to know about it. But it is this knowledge, gained through what we have done before, that we are able to build F-22 Raptors. Imagine an F-22 Raptor with canvas wings and fuesalage and hand dropped bombs during WWI. It would be very [i]non sequitor[/i]. To carry the analogy: starships also have to deal with traveling through a medium, subspace. For the purposes of this discussion, we call the principles of moving through subspace [b]hyperdynamics[/b]. Unfortunately, we know nothing about how hyperdynamics works nor any of the principles or equations that describe it. We can only guess and make sweeping inferences based upon what we have seen. But inferences are still valid. I won't type out my entire treatise on starship design here, but Dan should have it and hopefully will be posting it on Star Trek Minutaie soon. The rules that I've come up with though, can be applied to satisfactorily explain all starships we've seen, EXCEPT for the Akiraprize. And believe me when I say I've tried to find an explanation, I really have. But I cannot. But in brief, there must be some logic and rationale behind starship design. Starfleet doesn't go retro. Starfleet isn't trying to get anybody to buy their starships. They are engineers and scientists dealing with a scientific environment and dealing with an engineering problem. There is a goal they need to accomplish, they must accomplish this goal under certain conditions, and they endeavor to do this by the best (read: simplest and most effective) means possible. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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