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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Ryan McReynolds: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt_Spencer: [qb]For whatever reason, TPTB are pissing many fans (loyal or not) off, moreso, I think, than has happened with the launch of previous series.[/qb] [/QUOTE] And yet, they're also making many fans (loyal or not) very happy. Polls at TrekWeb, Trek Today, and other sites consistently show approval of the series in the 70-80% range, before and after the series premiere. Those who don't like [i]Enterprise[/i] are in a minority as far as fandom at large... though the tech-fans don't seem to fit this trend. Perhaps its our stereotypical attention to detail, an attention to detail that most fans don't share. My dad, for isntance, watched the original series as a teen and couldn't care less about what the ships look like or what kind of weapons they're throwing around. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt_Spencer: [qb]If they ever get around to that 10th film (TWO STAR WARS MOVIES IN BETWEEN TREKS??), that will undoubtedly go into my "personal canon."[/qb] [/QUOTE] So you mind when [i]Enterprise[/i] destroys widely-held fan consensus about the twenty-second century, but you'll "undoubtedly" accept... ($$$ Begin Spoilers for [i]Star Trek: Nemesis[/i] $$$) ...the destruction of widely-held fan consensus about the Romulan Empire and Remus in particular? After all, fans have long agreed that Romulus and Remus were settled together when the Romulans left Vulcan, but [i]Nemesis[/i] will show that Remus is inhabited by a slave-race. ($$$ End Spoilers for [i]Star trek: Nemesis[/i] $$$) It seems that there is a double-standard at work here, but maybe I'm wrong. The funny thing is that there isn't a widely-held fan consensus about what starships, technology, and civilzations were like in the twenty-second century. LUG's game materials (created by very ardent fans, as anyone who's talked to them can attest) painted a picture completely different from that of, say, Masao's Starfleet Museum. This is completely different from Michael Jan Friedman's [i]Starfleet: Year One[/i] serial novel, which is different from the old [i]Spaceflight Chronology[/i], which is different (in many respects) from FASA's role-playing game, which is dramatically different from traditional tech fandom. To use a pointed example, look at the infamous James Dixon. He steadfastly refuses to change the ideas that tech fandom held in the early 1980s. He accuses the producers of essentially all [i]Star Trek[/i] since 1986 of ignoring what came before, though none of "what came before" was more than fan extrapolation. He has a personal devil called "Okuda" that he largely blames for blowing off fandom. He is also essentially ignored by fandom at large as a whiner who doesn't know when to quit. I've seen many people through the years, here and elsewhere, complain about Dixon's bias and apparent grudge, and express the idea that he should get over it and finally accept that fandom was wrong. In ten years, [i]Enterprise[/i] is going to be firmly entrenched in [i]Star Trek[/i] canon and fandom. There will be people that will steadfastly refuse to change the ideas that fandom held in the late 1990s. They will accuse the producers of [i]Enterprise[/i] of ignoring what came before, though none of "what came before" was more than fan extrapolation. They will have personal devils called "Berman" and "Braga" that they will largely blame for blowing off fandom. They will also probably be ignored by fandom at large as whiners who don't know when to quit. If you want to be one of those people, don't let me stop you. :D (Quick Note: I'm not accusing anyone of being a whiner, nor suggesting anyone stop complaints. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, I just like analogies, and I can imagine Dixon saying most of these same things circa 1990.) [QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt_Spencer: [qb]We may have built up our own fandom views of what Trek before Trek was like, but it was, for the most part, a shared view among many fans. TPTB seem not to care.[/qb] [/QUOTE] To paraphrase a certain [i]Simpsons[/i] episode, "They've given you hundreds of hours of free entertainment, and you think they owe [i]you[/i]?" Since the producers know that (1) tech fans are clearly not indicative fo fandom at large and (2) so far, approval of [i]Enterprise[/i] has been very high, they seem to be doing the logical thing by staying the course. [i]Star Trek[/i] production isn't a democracy any more than it is only "Gene Roddenberry's vision;" [i]Star Trek[/i] is a franchise. The irony is that if [i]Star Trek[/i] production [i]were[/i] a democracy, most of the voters would be in favor of [i]Enterprise[/i] and the situation wouldn't be any different! The producers are just giving the people what they've clearly indicated they want by tuning in every week, buying those novels and movie tickets. It's sad, but the sort of "morbid curiosity" that nearly forces [i]Star Trek[/i] fans to watch series that they dislike could very well be responsible for keeping them on the air. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Capt_Spencer: [qb]So, I'm saying that I can live without THEM! LOL I have my own early Earth spaceship designs, more believable than Akiraprise, and more attractive than what a pre-Daedalus might look like! ^_^ The same goes for early Klingon ships.[/qb][/QUOTE] Fine, take the easy way out! :p I find that it's far more fun to integrate than to pick and choose. Having to completely revise your personal [i]Star trek[/i] history is both challenging and stimulating, to me at least. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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