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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Mojo Jojo: [QB] [QUOTE]Now, to actually state something relating to the original topic, I find it interesting that in the Star Trek universe, humanity is now portrayed as progressing all the way to the stars, even with religion. In fact, the only ones holding humanity back were a people who did not believe in things "supernatural," and devoted themselves entirely to logic and reason ;) .[/QUOTE] LOL! There is indeed a sweet, appreciable irony to this... [QUOTE]Religion also plays a role in keeping kids from having sex before they're ready. Religion plays a role in keeping people from every kind of immorality.[/QUOTE] No, [b]parents[/b] play those roles. [QUOTE]Religion plays a role in keeping some people SANE (like, say, me).[/QUOTE] I'd say you are insane regardless (hey, you opened the door ;) ). [QUOTE]Except that they would not EXIST without religion.[/QUOTE] Sure they would. Different names, same institutions. [QUOTE]Except for the fact that people wouldn't contribute nearly as much to charities, and thus many hospitals would be shut down.[/QUOTE] And your sources to support this claim are...? Can you say this for a fact, or for that matter, with the slightest degree of certainty? Nope. [QUOTE]Well, stem-cell research requires the termination of a living fetus, at least beyond what's been authorized already, so that's included under "abortion". As for abortion, it has nothing to do with a soul, any more than laws against murder do. It's the termination of a human being against their will, who threatens no one. Everyone agrees that such a thing is wrong, but they make an exception for abortion for some inscrutable reason.[/QUOTE] According to [i]your[/i] definitions of what constitutes life / a human being. I surely do *not* need to remind you that any definition is subject to change? [QUOTE]Hardly. Just why would a biologist need to know about evolution to study a new plant?[/QUOTE] So the biologist in question is able to 1). understand more about 'how and why' the plant ended up in its present form, and 2). explain its functions within a larger context. [QUOTE]I'd be a far more depressed and volitile person, due to the lack of interaction with other believers, for one.[/QUOTE] What an interesting *personal* detail. However, while *you* would turn into dr. Psycho, others might just retain their sanity. It certainly doesn't mean *everyone* would undergo that transformation. [QUOTE]The question isn't whether they COULD, it's whether they WOULD. And most people wouldn't.[/QUOTE] And again, this is based upon what, exactly? [QUOTE]No. It can't. You can create most amino acids, but you can't even create a single protein, much less anything that could possibly be considered to be alive.[/QUOTE] Wrong. Lab experiments have indicated the formation of protein strands under the right (simulated) conditions. And what do proteins consist of? That's right, amino acids! [QUOTE]Further, showing evolution with pre-existing life (something of a cheat) would take billenia, in the most conservative scenarios. I don't think we have any labs that old.[/QUOTE] So the entire theory is instantly dismissed? Ah well. Undermines the authority of the church too much, I suppose. [QUOTE]Yes, to some degree, but WITHOUT the church there would never have been a Renaisance, nor would the Germanic tribes been civilized as quickly. It was a unifying, stablizing influence in all of Europe.[/QUOTE] 1). There would never have been a Renaissance without the Roman or Greek cultures. The church simply revisited them. Everything had been done before, and definitely better. 2). Unifying? Stabilizing? *Cough* crusades, witch-hunts, etc. *Cough* [/QB][/QUOTE]
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