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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] Since my 2018 thread ("Discovery Alternate Universe Confirmed") is locatable via search but "does not exist" when clicked, and to avoid derailings of other threads, I'll try posting this once more. I'll simply summarize this: http://weblog.st-v-sw.net/2018/10/canonwars-discovery-and-trek-continuity.html Kurtzman and the gang, along with fans thereof, have often suggested that the new crop of shows that began with and are connected to Star Trek: Discovery are "Prime", "canon", "prime canon", et cetera. This is taken to suggest that the new operators of the Star Trek brand are creating works that continue the Star Trek Original Universe as seen in TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY, ENT, and related films. Unfortunately, this is not accurate. Obviously, Discovery and its stable-mates are influenced by the JJ Abrams Trek films, an alternate Trek universe. That's no big deal, in and of itself, and to be expected since Kurtzman came from there. Indeed, as originally envisioned by Fuller, Discovery was a "reimagine" that didn't need to be part of any universe in particular, but somewhere between marketing and the weird CBS/Paramount Trek ownership issues of the time it ended up being claimed as Prime, and here our troubles began. The problem is that "Prime" is *not* the same thing as the Star Trek Original Universe. The "Prime" canon, per Kurtzman's consistent statements over the years, is that Prime Star Trek includes the continuity of the novels, comics, and so on, *and that set of facts is what they try to adhere to*. The Star Trek Original Universe canon specifically rejected those works as being part of continuity (even with the occasional pilfer that graduated the pilfered info to canon status). Ergo, the new Star Trek brand shows are not and logically cannot be part of the Original Universe. Put another way, the Star Trek Original Universe was Tuvok. The Trek non-canon was Neelix. The JJ-verse production folks, including Kurtzman, treated Trek as Tuvix, a merging of the two, and created their own explicit offshoot from that. The CBS Canon -- or, since that's out-of-date with the re-merger, the Discoverse? -- only takes us back to Tuvix. However, Tuvix is not Tuvok. This is blatantly obvious from the altered histories, visual discontinuties, basic fact differences, and so on, as many have argued elsewhere ad nauseum. When Kurtzman et al. suggest they've kept true to canon as best they could, they are not wrong. It's just that their canon differs from that of the Original Universe, and their shows inhabit a Prime universe which differs also. This does *not* mean Discovery et al. are "not canon", "non-canon", et cetera. CBS/Paramount can claim whatever they like as canon and in-continuity. It is simply different, and that's okay. With that in mind, everyone can enjoy the shows on their own merits, avoiding the stress of trying to reimagine prior material to fit the new material or vice-versa. There's no need to seek consistency between the two, but if you're into the universe-mixing then have fun and enjoy yourself. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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