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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Zipacna: [qb] But Kurtzman has said often enough that this is the same universe as classic Trek. [/QUOTE][/qb] So you have those quotes, then? [QUOTE] [qb] his supposed diktats over canon policy (which frankly looks to me as nothing more than a misrepresentation of what he actually said) [/QUOTE][/qb] (shrug) Sorry you feel that way. He was very clear. I can try to explain it to you again differently, but I rather suspect at this point that even if I got him to call you the outcome would be the same. [QUOTE][qb] Sorry, I'm just tired of some of those who dislike new Trek coming out with the "waaaaa it's not the same universe" arguement. Those who disliked it said exactly the same thing about Enterprise 20 years ago. It was nonsense then, and it's just as much nonsense now. [/qb][/QUOTE]I never heard of that with Enterprise, that I recall, though TNG skepticism has been inflated beyond anything it resembled in '87 as an attack on naysayers. That said, several times in this thread folks have tried to dispute my point by associating it with other people on the internet . . . I have the sense some of that is stuff like the "alternate license" crap or even the Youtube metal helmet goofball. That's a trash argument. I would note that I'm not doing the reverse. Would you like to be associated with the doxxing psychopaths of #WeAreStarfleet Disco Twitter? Perhaps you'd like to be associated with the wacky Disco fan who threatened swordplay against Shatner? Perhaps you'd like to be associated with those who would literally start insulting online chums because the Enterprise and Spacedock aren't the same in Discovery, yet they would insist it's basically identical? Maybe you'd just like to accuse me of all sorts of -isms and flame me, to the point that people on the Star Trek Reddit feed talk about how they feel like they have to be very careful criticizing Discovery lest its crazy fans attack viciously? Let's stick to the facts and the topic of the debate, and those actually party to it. (I'm also working hard to keep it from even delving in to the Disco-discontinuities, despite that coming up a lot, organically.) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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