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[QUOTE]Originally posted by AndrewR: [QB] There is nothing wrong with the good kitbashes - where have the marvels of the Cheyenne and the New Orleans gone? Kitbash isn't a dirty-word... the centaur is a good ship - its when things like the Tech Manual have all these wierd parts, then it gets frustrating. I like to have 'families' of ships - i.e. New Orleans/Galaxy/Cheyenne/Nebula/Danube and Constitution refit/Constellation/Challenger/Excelsior/Sydney but when you cross 'generations' it gets annoying. I think people have gotten the kitbash ships and the family ships mixed up... I hate how we continually get new designs with no 'era' feel about them, we were going to see an Ambassador era ship in TNG for the Pegasus - but we missed out because of money constraints. I liked how in The Raven - the Raven was basically a Sydney for the Ambassador Era... now I guess we are beginning to get another family of ships: Intrepid/Sovereign/Prometheus/Nova although the intrepid straddles the galaxy era and the sovereign era. The Defiant is difficult but since it was designed between Q Who? and The Best of Both Worlds? would it be the Galaxy era - or have we already moved on to pre-soveregin? so we've got Daedelus Constitution (and also those Matt Jefferies designs from the TOS sketch book, which I reckon a lot of the movie series ships were based on) constitution-like: Mirandas, Challengers, Oberths Movie Era: Constitution Refit Oberth Refit Miranda Refit Soyuz Constellation Sydney Post Movie/Pre Galaxy Era: Excelsior era Excelsior Refits Centaur? Shelly/Curry? Ambassador (there is probably a whole group of Ambassador eras - but we haven't seen them) Freedom Niagra Maquis Fighter (see below) Peregine (see below) plus the hard to place. Akiras, Norways, Steamrunners, and Sabres... its hard to place these since they have no real common elements between each other except Sovereign era life boats... The Steamrunner has the rear part of the saucer section looking sort of Defiant-ish so maybe this was made around the same time... The Steamrunner could also be a modern oberth (design not function) i.e. the saucer section with directly attached nacelles leading to an under hung section cargo/deflector section. Also if we go by The Raven and not Dark Frontier you can add the Raven as an Ambassadorised Sydney. plus the Olympic Class The Galaxy Era: Galaxy Nebula + refits New Orleans Cheyenne Danube maybe Intrepid. The triangular shape of the Norway Class tends to suggest a kinship with the Intrepid class... The underhanging catamaran nacelles and pylons are a common feature between the Norway and the Akira... maybe the Norway took its designs from the Akira bussard collectors from (or gave to) the Danube bussards and helped become a test bed for the Intrepid... The Akira Sensor pod is reminiscent of the Nebula class The Akira Bussard collectors are reminiscent of the Olympic class. The saucer attached nacelles of the Sabre class are reminiscent of the Defiant class... I would put the Defiant mini Era in here: Defiant maybe pre-Defiant would be the Maquis Fighter since it has similar elements... see the small size, the twin forward "phaser canons"? the small bridge area. this was probably a Ambassador era ship - see the bridge panneling in "Caretaker". If this was an Ambassador Era design - it would fit with in with the Cardassian Wars... thus being a pre-plan for the Defiant. The Peregrine Class - two was probably a by-product of the Cardassian wars and a sibling of the Maquis Fighter. The Sovereing Era: Sovereign Prometheus Nova maybe Intrepid The escape pods of the Four FC ships also may lend these ships to being contemporary with the Sovereign class - although because of the registry number and their proximity to Earth in FC that they were all undergoing refit - refit of early classes? maybe Cardassian Wars ships that have been pulled out of mothballs, due to the impending Dominion/Klingon/Cardassian/Borg threats of the time. Phew! I should try a diagram. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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