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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukhat: [QB] [QUOTE]It's also a constant torture to me that we have seen all of this stuff, BUT NOT THE FEDERATION-CLASS DREADNOUGHT!!!!! The closest we've come is hearing about one of them (The U.S.S. Entente NCC-2120) in TMP.[/QUOTE] Well, that all depends on how you view canonicity in the absence of an actual sight of a described ship. The usual definition of "canon" as it pertains to most people here is: If the ship in question appeared on the screen, then it exists, therefore it is official. Now there could have been an episode of TOS where Kirk or Spock described how a dreadnought looks in vivid detail, but the ship dosn't get shown. How do you deal with that canon-wise? As far as I'm concerned, we already have good evidence of the dreadnought being canon without it being seen. 1. Both the Columbia & the Revere are mentioned by name and registry. Although not seen, these are taken right from FJ's manual. 2. Three (or four if you count the starliner) of FJ's ship classes, including the classes of the two aforementioned ships, are seen on a display. 3. The name of one dreadnought (U.S.S. Entente) and it's corresponding registry is spoken in dialogue. True, it could be a different design than what was shown in the manual, but why? The other ships were the same designs. IMO, the Federation class dreadnought Entente, and its corresponding design in FJ's manual, is canon. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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