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[QUOTE]Originally posted by PsyLiam: [QB] What he said. But point by point: "The good shots of the E-C's impulse engines show them glowing blue. The stern shots of the Reliant from TWOK show the landing bays glowing blue. Are you going to try to convince us that they're actually impulse engines, simply because both glowed blue? Particularly since the Reliant's bays weren't specifically stated to be landing bays?" What? Going by that logic, I should be stating that warp drives are actually impulse, because they are blue. Your logic: One set of impulse engines shown to be blue = glowey blue things are impulse engines My logic: Almost all impulse engines are red. Some things were designed as impulse engines, and 99.9999% of the people involved with the design and contruction of the ship (model and CGI) treated them as impulse engines. "And if we're going to argue about what the designers originally intended, then the Yamato is 71807, and modern warp engines shouldn't glow blue when they're not at warp, because that's what Okuda and Probert originally intended." I think the Yamoto [i]is[/i] 71807. The warp thing is a non-issue, because it was never, ever, ever used in the show, at any point. The Enterprise-D was originally going to be NCC 1701-7. Nearly every episode of modern Star Trek has shown that warp drive engines glow blue all the time. And modern Star Trek has also continuously shown that big rectangular reg glowy things are Impulse Engines. Espeically if the designer and builders think so. "But they would probably best serve as some sort of cooling devices for internal machinery, so that only some heat would need to come out of the big red surfaces, not physical objects or deuterium-helium jets." Now, that makes more sense than the Shuttlebay argument, because there's at least an attampt at explanation as to why these "shuttlebays" glowed red. If the MSD (which has been [i]proven[/i] to be wrong on at least a couple of things) had never labelled them as shuttlebays, can you really see people standing up saying "Hang on! You know those red glowy thingies that everyone thinks are impulse engines? I think they've shuttlebays"? It's as likely as someone trying to claim the Enterprise-D's main shuttle bay is actually a giant toaster. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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