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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phelps: [QB] Glad I could help. As far as the big BoPs -- any big BoPs -- are concerned: in the ideal world, they would've been new ship models, and I suggest we treat them as such. Period. The writers of "Yesterday's Enterprise" wanted merely the first BoP seen in the show to be a BoP, while the fighting ships at the end were to be "K'vort class battlecruisers". They got the BoP for both shots. Similarily, the ship in "A Matter of Honor" wasn't specified as a BoP in writers' directions, but that's what they got. The writers did ask for the BoP in "The Defector", "Reunion" and "Redemption". It seems they had learned the reality of their budget by that time. Fortunately, they got the Vor'cha soon enough to avoid more scaling problems, which unfortunately did persist because the VFX crews got used to scaling the BoPs higher next to the Ent-D. Mike Okuda fixed the problem in his way, which as Bernd describes is not completely true to the show. The K'vort/B'rel explanation never really caught hold among the writers, the effects crews, and even Mike Okuda, who didn't bother to figure out the sizes for the ships and instead scaled both at 110m in the Encyclopedia. The reality is that the writers and the characters usually talk about a generic BoP in the scripts, and the Effects crews think of the BoP as a 110m ship whose size can be changed for dramaturgic reasons. The only reason we saw big ships in TNG was that the Klingons needed something visually comparable to the Ent-D, and couldn't get a new model initially. Hence, the size of the BoP goes up from 110m. In DS9, we had the Vor'chas, and no big ships to show next to the BoP -- hence no reason to deviate from the 110m baseline, or a reason to show them at less than 110m from time to time. But the assumed size is still 110m. The big BoP period had best be forgotten. Some of the ships can be subsumed into the 110m range, for others we'd have to postulate short-lived experimental designs that only looked like a BoP. This is the apparent consensus among the people producing Star Trek. It's not the consensus among most of fandom, but that's because most of fandom is aware of only Okuda's work. They don't talk to David Stipes or Ron D. Moore. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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