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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Boris: [QB] It takes a while to get back to the perspective of the regular viewer for whom the show was intended, as opposed to a close model analyst (i.e. let's keep in mind who the show was made for, and use our knowledge to expand on that, not the other way around). We cannot analyze the VFX in such a way, because we forget the simple fact that the most important size relationship is that of DS9 's docking port and the Defiant. Just as a blooper is corrected with respect to the entirety of an episode, a size relationship is corrected with respect to the entire DS9 series and Star Trek shows in general. If you don't match that, you're going to have a bunch of angry casual viewers who see this thing over and over again in the opening credits and stock footage. Hence, the exact size of the Defiant depends on the size of DS9. Aside from "big", what is the most obvious reference for DS9? The shot with the Nebula in the opening credits and the humans in spacesuits, followed by stock footage of ships docked to the station, followed by stock footage of runabouts launching and specific ships docked at DS9. These important extremes (700m to 2300m) happen to average out to about 1600m. The viewer won't notice the fact that the model was scaled up because it's far more difficult to perceive the relationship between window spacing and the overall model than between the station and the ships. The Nebula-station relationship is also more obvious than the human-station relationship. It's easy to see why the VFX sizes in this case are the most important determinant of the viewer's perception of size. Even Rick Sternbach seems to have correctly realized this in the DS9TM. Naturally, if DS9 had a narration saying that the station is 1200m wide, it would be 1200m wide no matter what. We must not make the mistake of identifying with the model designers and their intentions just because we're into starships. If necessary, we ought to modify the details on the models to match what was seen on the show in the order of frequencies. The casual viewer doesn't see the models up-close -- their sizes are the sizes the VFX people determine, and if they vary, the most important of them is the most frequent one. Of course, had the VFX people known who'd be watching, they would've made things more consistent. The way it is, we just need to make sure that the most obvious and frequent shots are accounted for, and use that as a baseline for interpreting the rest. Boris [/QB][/QUOTE]
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