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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Sol System: [qb] Except they had a design for the Phoenix in the chronology, and didn't use that.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes they did. Or, at least, they based the final design heavily on that. All they really did was change the cockpit shape so that it was the casing of a Titan V missile. Other than that and the detailing, the overall layout is the same. A cylinder with nacelles sticking out. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Masao: [b]Don't get me wrong, MMOM, I want that model to represent the Daedalus class just as much as you do, but I don't trust the producers to see it the same way. Their use of the Ferengi with the weaselly explanation that the Enterprise crew never learned their name suggests they'll do something similar with this model. The uncertainty surrounding the class of the model, reflected in your phase "regardless of whether or not Sisko ever said 'Look! This is my Daedalus model!'" is just the type of loophole that might be exploited by the producers. That the existence of the Daedalus class is canon can't be disputed, but the producers can weasel out of having the model represent a Daedalus class ship by saying the model is labeled Horizon, not Daedalus, and that Horizon was not established on screen as a Daedalus class ship. Of course, USS Essex is established as a Daedalus-class ship, but this model isn't labeled Essex either. Nx-01 is clearly more advanced than this putative Daedalus-class ship, so if the Daedalus is supposed to follow NX-01, I bet they'll just ignore this model. Or maybe they'll say Daedalus existed before NX-01, is represented by this more primitive-looking model, and served until 2196 (but i doubt it).[/b][/QUOTE]Okay, first of all, I doubt they're going to go through the trouble of using a ship class that's already been in the canon, because they'd rather avoid having to deal with continuity if they can. For this reason, I hold no real anticipation of seeing the Daedalus in ENT. Especially since, as others have pointed out, it's really from a later period than the one in which the show takes place. Secondly, I still believe that if for some reason they did use the Daedalus, (say, perhaps, if Okuda suggested it to them, in which case he'd point out the model to them anyway) they wouldn't spend the money or the trouble creating some new design for it. They'd use the design that [i]already exists[/i]. TPTB are, by nature, lazy. This being the case, when they want to reference something they're probably not going to go back and watch episodes. They're probably going to just pick up the Encyclopedia and take a peek. (That's what it's there for, after all.) They're also not going to say "Hey, even though there's already a perfectly useable design here in front of us, we're going to pay someone to come up with a new one!" It simply doesn't work that way. (Maybe on a film, like First Contact, they could afford to do such a thing, but probably not on a regular production series. Hell, they're already re-using CGI models!) I think you guys are worried about nothing. The Daedalus is such an obscure ship tha they'll probably never even think of it. And, if they do, anywhere they look they'll find that design greeting them. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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