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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] Whoah . . . cool. [QUOTE]Originally posted by David Templar: [qb]Just some points about the comparison page: "The Federation seems to have no tanks or armored personnel carriers." Combat hoppers were mentioned in DS9.[/qb][/QUOTE]Bah, dammit. One problem I have is that later-DS9 and Voyager were not shown in my area, so I'm left with whatever I can download and see for myself, or cull from reliable sources. (For instance, that whole bit on the TR-116 is from online sources . . . never saw the ep.) [QUOTE][qb]Used as troop carriers, they were apparently armored to a certain extent, judging by what that Starfleet NCO-lookalike said to Jake. There's no reason why they can't be armed to serve in a more direct combat role.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yeah, I'm looking online now . . . hoppers were used to deploy ground troops. Are they like fat shuttlecraft, or dedicated land/atmospheric, or do we know? [QUOTE][qb]"Other special advantages" Ecological weapons: The technology to destroy all life on a M-class planet by blazing away the atmosphere comes to mind. The Klingons did it in "The Chase" without batting an eye. Saves one from having to build an entire Death Star, blow up a planet, and litter a solar system.[/qb][/QUOTE]Very true, but I wouldn't imagine that Starfleet would employ that technology, or at least not against a populated world. It might make for an effective way to prevent a power from establishing a beachhead on some uncolonized Class-M world, though. For wiping out a civilization, Starfleet already has General Order 24, as threatened by Kirk in "A Taste of Armageddon"[TOS]. For better or worse, I doubt we'll ever see that actually employed. [QUOTE][qb]Interphasic techology: Is there anything it can't do? [/qb][/QUOTE]Quite true, but the tactical applications we've seen are somewhat limited. There's the phase cloak, and perhaps transphasic torpedoes, but I'm trying to stay pretty strict insofar as giving Starfleet only that technology which it is seen to employ fairly commonly. Since phase-cloaks weren't used during the Dominion War, and since evidently Starfleet will employ some sort of Temporal Prime Directive in reference to transphasic torpedoes and the Batmobile armor from "Endgame" (I assume as much, since the E-E won't have the armor in Nemesis), I'm leaving it out. [QUOTE][qb]Artificial intellegence: AI seems to be more advanced in Star Trek. You have sentient androids and holograms, versus your idiotic basically-just-slaves droids. [/qb][/QUOTE]R2-D2 and C-3PO are the exceptions that prove the rule. They are presented as quite sentient, and R2 has excellent data storage (the plans for a 100+ kilometer starship cannot be small). Their main problems are limited normal mobility, and the fact that no "Measure of a Man"-type judgement about their sentience ever occurred. Of course, this is the same universe where cloned humanoids are genetically-altered to be servile, and are slaves designed to fight and die on alien worlds, even before the rise of the even-more-evil evil Empire. * On the matter of terraforming and nanotechnology, I'd say you're right . . . but I have chosen to make some allowances, and not attack too much based on little things that we don't get to see, but can reasonably assume to be there. For example, 20th Century Earth has made very nice headway into the nanotech front . . . I must assume that a culture which has been in space for a thousand years (if even going very slowly) and which has a million systems probably has the resources to have at least dabbled in nanotech as much as we have. As for terraforming, it is possible that they lack it entirely, depending on how readily-available Class-M worlds are . . . necessity being the mother of invention and all that. And that does lead me to wonder just what the Class-M planet population density is in the Federation. As of TOS, Kirk reported that they were on a thousand planets and spreading out, and Picard reports 150 member worlds spread across an 8,000 light-year Federation in First Contact. There should be about 200,000,000 stars within a 4,000 light-year radius of Earth. One would think that unless Class-M planets are damn rare, there would be so many available that multi-decade terraforming (as seen in "Home Soil"[TNG]), geo-terraforming starships (as mentioned on a computer screen in "Field of Fire"[DS9]), and Genesis Device attempts would be unnecessary, and therefore somewhat unlikely. At any rate, there are something like 500 hours of canon Trek, and by the time Lucas gets done, there will still be only about 12 or 13 hours of canon Wars. I figure giving them the benefit of the doubt on some things is only fair. Thanks! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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