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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Futurama Guy: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by CaptainMike: [qb] The Neutral Zone First, we know that its farther out that UFP realtime communications capacity in both the 2260s (Balance of Terror) and in the 2360s (The Neutral Zone; The Defector).. [/qb][/QUOTE]A Quick Analysis of Just How Far....* Scenario #1) "Balance of Terror" Based on the dialog, the nearest command base to the [i]1701s'[/i] position patrolling the border of the RNZ, had delay time of 3hrs in receiving a communique in responce from the time their first message was sent. [i]Assuming[/i] the somewhat standard wf 9.9999 for subspace transmissions (established after the fact, of course), and that, in reality, less than 1� hrs are involved in message travel time one-way(time for message to get there, time to review data, time for response to get back), this might suggest that their position on the RNZ was about ~30ly's from the nearest command base. Scenario #2) "The Neutral Zone" Based on the time to travel (roughly) from the Earth cyrosatellite (c. Kazis Binary Sys) to the border of the RNZ, noted a time of 19hrs-28mins @ wf8 (and this seems wrong) but this indicates that there was merely 2.275ly's between the two positions. Now how far that space debris could have travelled in 360+ years is another story, but this suggests that they were close to Earth, yet based also on dialog, they were a long way from Earth. Scenario #3) "The Defector" The time that was given for the communique delay from SFC on Lya III (where ever that is) to the [i]Enterprise-Ds'[/i] position on the border of the RNZ was 2hrs 22mins (one-way). This seems to indicate that they were no less than 54 light years from that SF post. (However it isnt signified why this base was the one giving the orders; whether it was the closest one or the one where the Romulan Affairs Dept. is located, but this places this portion of the RNZ quite a ways from Earth.) Scenario #4) "Unification, Part II" For the relationship between the RNZ location near Galorndon Core (where I believe the E-D was located when it encountered the Vulcan "peace" convoy) and the distance to Vulcan, it would seem reasonable to assume that these ships travelling at a lowly wf1 would not have a very far trip to travel to go there, as obviously wf1=1ly traveled in 1 year. So I think this is something that can be written off as, "yes, Vulcan is close, but not THAT close"...as wf 1 would get you there, just not in any sort of reasonable time. --- A few assumptions... In (#1), it might be assumed that these border outposts may be the closest point, linerally, between Earth and Romulus. This give a fair point of reference of ~30ish ly's from space command (Earth?) to their position and therefore Romulus is still (somewhat) "in the neighborhood". Next in (#2), we see that this space debris travelled a HELL of a long way in 300 years, that or this whole ep started on Earth's back porch. In determining just how far that cryosatellite may have travelled, based on Pioneer X's average velocity of 12km/sec and its current distance travelled in roughly 31 years (.131 ly's), we find that the cryosatellite (traveling at a similar velocity) might travel 1.5 ly's in 360+ years. So either the Enterprise-D is 4 ly's from the Neutral Zone (which I am unaware of any binary stars that close to Earth), OR that cryosatellite took the same shortcut from out system at we saw in "Broken Bow", therefore this reference establishs nothing numerically valuable. Finally in (#3), it may be likely that the Enterprise-D is on the far side of the Neutral Zone, that or we could start getting into its possible z-axis distance along the zone. --- So what did we learn here? Jack shit, except for wasting a lot of time, this establishs very little solid proof about anything except, that I have a lot of time to waste and that there is quite a distance between Earth and the neutral zone. This of course leaves us with the gaping distance between the two 'powers' and the agony of awaiting the B&B plan of "fixing this" as 25+ly's is really too far a distance for a practicle war to be fought for that time period. *(NOTE - This, by no means, is intended to be presented as either accurate or scientific and is probably totally wrong, but it math involved seems to make sense until I am told otherwise! :p ) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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