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[QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Masao: [qb] GREAT STUFF!!! Greg Tyler of [URL=http://www.trekplace.com]www.trekplace.com[/URL] also has a copy of #27 but refused to post it until he got the ok from Greg Jein.[/qb][/QUOTE]Yes. His reluctance motivated me to do some more searching online for myself. (It turned out to ba really great deal---I paid a mere $1.00 for this thing!) I'm afraid he's in for a hard time in trying to get into contact with Jein. He seems to be something of a recluse. Neither Okuda nor Sternbach have a contact address (e-mail or otherwise) for him (or at least one they're willing to divulge) and online searches turn up nothing helpful. [QUOTE]Originally posted by MinutiaeMan: [qb](I hope this isn't considered problematic because of copyright; after all, it's been posted online already, and I'm just saving people transcribing work. ;) )[/qb][/QUOTE]I strongly doubt that Jein would have any objection to the distribution of this article, since it was written nearly 30 years ago and furthermore was intended for the very purpose of dissemination among Star Trek fandom. (That's what the whole fanzine system was about.) [QUOTE][b]This just occurred to me, but we finally have explanations for the Franz Joseph names of the starships for registries -1712 through -1727. (Or at least, I'd never known where they came from before.)[/QUOTE][/b] Yes, FJ's number one source when writing the Tech Manual was Stephen Whitfield and Gene Roddenberry's [i]The Making of Star Trek[/i]. That book reproduces several internal memos regarding potential starship names ciculated between Dorothy Fontana, Bob Justman, and Gene Roddenberry during the production of TOS, which contains those names. [QUOTE][b]USS Constitution NCC-1700 Constitution USS Constellation NCC-1017 Constitution USS Defiant NCC-1764 Constitution USS Eagle NCC-1685 Constitution USS Endeavour NCC-1718 Constitution USS Enterprise NCC-1701 Constitution USS Essex NCC-1697 Constitution USS Excalibur NCC-1664 Constitution USS Exeter NCC-1672 Constitution USS Farragut NCC-1647 Constitution USS Hood NCC-1703 Constitution USS Hornet NCC-1868 Constitution USS Intrepid NCC-1631 Constitution USS Kongo NCC-1732 Constitution USS LaFayette NCC-1866 Constitution USS Lexington NCC-1709 Constitution USS Potemkin NCC-1702 Constitution USS Republic NCC-1371 Constitution USS Tashik-Sotra NCC-1865 Constitution USS Valiant NCC-1623 Constitution USS Yorktown NCC-1717 Constitution[/QUOTE][/b] Remember now, this is not Jein's list but rather Ruth Berman's modified one, and includes at least one fandom addition (the [i]Tashik-Sotra[/i]) and a lot of seemingly arbitrary numbers. (Although Bjo Trimble later used those of the [i]Yorktown[i], [i]Potemkin[/i], and [i]Farragut[/i] in her officially-licensed 1976 [i]Star Trek Concordance[/i] and they were later passed on from there to FASA. The [i]Valiant[/i] number was used by Maynard and Mandel in [i]Star Trek Maps[/i] [1980] and was apparently modified into NCC-1223 by Okuda in the Encyclopedia. Also, the [i]Defiant[/i]'s registry is from D.C. Fontana, and came out of a third season memo, IIRC.) [QUOTE][b]STARBASE 10 LIST:[/b][/QUOTE]Starbase 11, actually. :p [QUOTE]Originally posted by The359: [qb] if the Intrepid is 1831, then why aren't the others 1894, 1897, and 1885? They certainly look like the same digit as the Intrepid.[/qb][/QUOTE]No, the others at least do in fact look to be 6s. [qb] [QUOTE]I still also do not include the Valiant as a Constitution class, since it doesn't fit the timeline or anything. [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes, even Jein recognizes this in the article. It's outside of the Connie's timeframe by a decade. -[b]MMoM[/b] :D [/QB][/QUOTE]
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