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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harry: [qb] With all respect, but to really explain the TOS "system", we need to at least ignore ENT, but probably also the Okudan TNG system. If we know how the TOS system works within the context of TOS only, we could then try to fit it into the ENT and TNG systems. [/qb][/QUOTE]Unfortunately, the TOS system doesn't work even in TOS, so that's a bit impossible. They decided to start with "all Ent-like ships are NCC-17XX", then along came the Constellation, and the chart in Court Martial, and it just continued getting worse from there. (956 springs immediately to mind.) The fact is that TOS is over, and we can explain it in the best possible way to fit in with the rest of ST, and no episodes will contradict us. :) [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harry: [qb]There's another half-hearted explanation in the fact that it the organization is also called [i]Star[/i]fleet. A Starfleet of Starships and Starbases. It could be that during TOS "Starship" referred to a ship in SF service, as opposed to a civilian "spaceship".[/qb][/QUOTE]In that case the dedication plaque would not have needed to say "Starship Class" because it would have been clear from the USS prefix. And even if it had said it, it should have said "Starship", if that is indeed its status, rather than "Starship Class", which means what I have already said. [Incidentally, perhaps USS stands for [b]U[/b]FP [b]S[/b]tarfleet [b]S[/b]hip] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harry: [qb]Perhaps "Starship Class" refers to the "Class One" for main ships (from the SFTM) and "Class Two" for shuttles (from that Voyager episode). But then, why did Mudd at one time claim "he didn't know this was a Starship!". Or did that only mean he didn't know it was a Starfleet ship?[/qb][/QUOTE]It makes so much more sense if Starship is a class. It would be like saying "I didn't know this was an Intrepid!" Surely he realised that Starfleet personnel wearing Starfleet uniforms had a Starfleet ship? [QUOTE]Originally posted by Harry: [qb]This entire weird TOS thing leaves me with the distinct impression that several behind-the-scenes people had their own system, but never bothered to tell each other. The fuzzy fandom interference doesn't help either.[/qb][/QUOTE]That's why we are here. :) What I have done is taken what is canon, compared it to modern practice and other ST examples, and produced what I think is a decent explanation for their incompetance. Granted, everyone else seems to think it's nonsense, but it works for me. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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