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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Griffworks: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [qb] I'd say that ST3 is good evidence that the Grissom *wasn't* a scout-class vessel. Chekov says he sees a scout. Kirk's response is one of *doubt* and *concern*! I got the impression that the Grissom could in certain special conditions be *mistaken* for a scout class vessel, which Kirk thought might have happened. But he said that only to placate the crew - secretly, he was concerned that if there really was a scout class vessel out there, then he was leading his friends into some sort of unscheduled trouble.[/qb][/QUOTE]With all due respect, I think that you're seroiusly reaching for this answer on this one, Timo. I was not at all left w/any impression of Kirk being concerned beyond not knowing if he'd have to fire on a Federation ship or not. That's it. He already knew that [i]Grissom[/i] was there, right? As "Futurama Guy" pointed out w/the exact text from the movie, Kirk knew that Grissom was expected to be there. Any "doubt" he had would have likely only been directed at wondering if Enterprise's sensor systems were having problems or if Grissom were trying to "hide" in a sensor blind spot of some sort - possibly a naturally occuring phenomenon. [QUOTE] As for "USS", I'm sure Starfleet is full of people who *don't really know* what the thing means. The Fleet must have its share of people who'd misplace Deneva on the stellar charts, or think that Maazarites are the guys with lots of fur, and still are competent enough to serve as top officers. The deeper meaning of "USS" isn't likely to be a top topic to be taught in any of the Academy lectures, really.[/QUOTE]And I'd wager that you're wrong here, too. I've got one family member and two friends who've been thru the United States Naval Academy at Annapolis, Maryland here in The States. Core classes there, as in all branchs of the United States Armed Forces, get pretty in-depth about the history and traditions of the service. Heck, in the USAF, we received the equivalent of 6 college credit hours worth of history, tradition and customs & courtesy's for our Service. While it's entirely possible to have "less than competent" officers in a service (trust me, I've seen plenty in the USAF!), I doubt most of them would ever be in a position to do any "harm" to the ship. We also see very few "enlisted" crewmen who aren't pretty darned proficient in at least their direct duties. Being as enlisted folks tend to be more along the lines of "specialists", I'm willing to bet that they're not nearly as "dense" in the Trek universe as most would thinkg. Also, consider that there is a Darwinian Process hard at work which eliminate's this in the Real World - called performance reports. Having not yet seen an incompetent officer beyond Captain Esteban's utter shock at encountering a BoP in Federation space and failing to raise his shields immediately, I'm willing to bet that most officers in Star Trek are highly competent and capable of giving disertations on the history of Star Fleet. ;) I won't argue the rest, as I feel it's fully conjecture on everyone else's part. There is nothing which 100% supports there not being a "Starship Class", much as I disagree with it. It's just silly think that there really was a "[i]U.S.S. Starship[/i]", lead ship in her class.... :rolleyes: [/QB][/QUOTE]
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