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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: [qb]Most Starfleet ships, yes, but real ships often use the full name (think of aircraft carriers as a prominent example). [/qb][/QUOTE]I don't see what real ships have to do with this discussion. Starfleet usually uses surnames alone (45 known ships), and there are only 3 examples of first names (Nils Bohr, John Muir, Thomas Paine), the last of which can be explained away and the first two were never clearly seen. Why would Starfleet change their practice just for the USS Archer? [/qb][/QUOTE]I assume that - in a fleet of several thousand vessels - there are more than one ship (the Thomas Paine) that require such an addition. And if this is the case, why didn't Starfleet use the full name of a person anyway instead of this 'sometimes we do it this way, sometimes we have to do it the other way'-thing? I brought real ships into the discussion because they use the full name of a person, which simply makes more sense. The problems are at hand: What if you have a USS Roddenberry, named after the famous TV producer. Then, someone comes up with the idea to name another ship Roddenberry, after someone else. What do you do? Add a 'Gene' to the name afterwards? Just tell the guy to use another name, allthough the other Roddenberry may have been much more important to history than Gene? Or does a ship with that name automatically honor not only Gene Roddenberry but every Roddenberry who ever existed? What would be the reason for naming a ship after someone in that case? Here's something else, just my personal solution: All the ships, the Brattains and Nobles and Pasteurs and Al-Batanis and so on do have the full name assigned to them (like the Thomas Paine), but it's either not used for whatever reason or the Captain of a ship or a commission or someone else decides if the ship should use the full name or not (Think of ships like a USS Stalin or USS Hitler; Starfleet would veto if the ship is to use that name only, to make clear they are actually referring to the famous scientist John Stalin or starfleet captain Edward Hitler. Maybe another guy named Paine has been a big player in the Eugenic Wars or was responsible for World War 3. :) ) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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