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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: [qb]I assume that - in a fleet of several thousand vessels - there are more than one ship (the Thomas Paine) that require such an addition. And if this is the case, why didn't Starfleet use the full name of a person anyway instead of this 'sometimes we do it this way, sometimes we have to do it the other way'-thing? I brought real ships into the discussion because they use the full name of a person, which simply makes more sense.[/qb][/QUOTE]Erm, I don't really care why. They just normally use the surname, and that's that. Oh, and real ships having full names makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, and the US Navy is the only major navy I can think of that uses full names rather than surnames. And with a fleet of 10,000 or so ships and 150 member worlds, each with major cities, rivers, mountains and historical figures, I shouldn't think Starfleet has an awful lot of trouble finding unique names. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: [qb]The problems are at hand: What if you have a USS Roddenberry, named after the famous TV producer. Then, someone comes up with the idea to name another ship Roddenberry, after someone else. What do you do? Add a 'Gene' to the name afterwards? Just tell the guy to use another name, allthough the other Roddenberry may have been much more important to history than Gene? Or does a ship with that name automatically honor not only Gene Roddenberry but every Roddenberry who ever existed? What would be the reason for naming a ship after someone in that case?[/qb][/QUOTE]It automatically honours everyone with that name. That doesn't seem to be a problem for me. Who it is named after does not appear on the dedication plaque, it's just a name, not an personal ego-booster for the person it's named after like some US Navy ships seem to be. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Cpt. Kyle Amasov: [qb]Here's something else, just my personal solution: All the ships, the Brattains and Nobles and Pasteurs and Al-Batanis and so on do have the full name assigned to them (like the Thomas Paine), but it's either not used for whatever reason or the Captain of a ship or a commission or someone else decides if the ship should use the full name or not (Think of ships like a USS Stalin or USS Hitler; Starfleet would veto if the ship is to use that name only, to make clear they are actually referring to the famous scientist John Stalin or starfleet captain Edward Hitler. Maybe another guy named Paine has been a big player in the Eugenic Wars or was responsible for World War 3. :) ) [/qb][/QUOTE]To be perfectly honest, that's a pretty silly solution, especially since we have seen the dedication plaques of ships named after people. :p And I don't think Starfleet will be painting "USS Abu Abdallah Muhammad Ibn Jabir Ibn Sinan al-Batani al-Harrani" on the hull of any of its ships any time soon. Expecting Starfleet to emulate the US Navy in every single way, even when it obviously doesn't (and in this case actually trying to deny what we have seen on screen in favour of a US Navy system) is one of the things that annoys me most. Starfleet is not the US Navy, has never been the US Navy, and hopefully never will be the US Navy. And frankly, considering the US Navy has its combat personnel wear baseball caps, calls ships USS George H. W. Bush and USS The Sullivans, and has managed to sink a fishing boat with a Nuclear Submarine, I'm very glad Starfleet doesn't emulate it. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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