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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Phoenix: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [qb]It's surprisingly honest of them to immortalize what are later seen as major cock-ups that way. What other "never again" ships do we have? Does Starfleet have those? Any battlesite-themed name could in theory qualify, but I'm looking for the likes of USS Hiroshima. Or perhaps USS Tian An Men.[/qb][/QUOTE]I think the major point here is that Starfleet represents all the people in the Federation, rather than a particular country. If the US named a ship USS Hiroshima, it would seem to say "aren't we great? we bombed it!", and if the Chinese Navy named a ship Tian An Men it would seem to say "don't rebel! some people did here and look what happened to them!" However, when Starfleet does it, USS Hiroshima is clearly in honour of the innocent civilians who died, and USS Tian An Men is in honour of those who died there in the name of freedom. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [qb] Ships are sometimes indeed explicitly named after multiple people. The The Sullivans is an obvious example, the Lewis and Clark another; but HMS Hood was also a nameshare, honoring multiple generations of seagoing heroes. The USN had at least USS Kaufmann, honoring a father and a son. And I think the Spruance did that, too. (Hmm. Perhaps we should be happy we got USS George H. W. Bush instead of a shorter form, so that the honor isn't unduly spread. :) ) Starfleet could have pulled the same trick with USS Archer. Or even USS Sarek and USS Surak, considering that Vulcans just plain *have* to recycle those 5-6-digit S...K names sooner or later. Unless the population of the planet is about 47 pairs of pointed ears at any given moment.[/qb][/QUOTE]The point is that Starfleet doesn't need to do anything "explicitly". We have never seen any ship with a famous person's name having whom it is named after specified, and in fact there have been several discussions about whom exactly certain ships are named in honour of. I believe the thought processes would go something like this: "Henry and Jonathan Archer are famous, let's call a ship USS Archer" or "Pavel Chekov was a good Admiral, let's name a ship USS Chekov" Rather than: "Let's name a ship in honour of Pavel Chekov" or "Let's name a ship in honour of Jonathan Archer, but call it USS Archer because his father is famous too" Regarding Vulcan names, perhaps the S***k system is only for aristocratic families. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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