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[QUOTE]Originally posted by J: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by David Templar: [qb] Just when I thought this thread was over... Two points about J's argument: 1. What role did big, multi-role starships serve? Explorers. What were Connies, Excelsiors, Ambassadors, and Galaxies said to be? Biggest of their time, and used for exploring. Hence, they were all of the same role and purpose, Explorers. [/qb][/QUOTE]On point 2 really quick... yes, Wolf 359 is forgettable. Point 1. I disagree with you. While each of them filled a role of exploration they did it differently and sometimes not at all. The Constitution was the first exploration vessel, and because the Feds knew absolutely nothing about exploration dangers it wasn't able to fulfill that role completely, but was capable of holding it's own in battle. The Excelsior was the learning process from the Constitution, plus the hope of faster travel via transwarp. The Ambassador was more heavy cruiser than explorer in both design and use-- I imagine the Ambassador stuck in defensive roles while other ships like the Constellation were doing the exploration [as someone else has already suggested]. The Galaxy Class does even less exploration than the Ambassador sticking more to the duties of a good-will ambassador to friendlies/allies/indifferent states, and serving in the role of a battlecruiser when necessary. So yes, the same general term may apply, but in extermely varying roles, which is what I meant. It seems that Explorers are built to be able to go out and stay for long times, like Voyager did [and that one ship from DS9's "Sound of Her Voice"] but it seems they don't all do that. [QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [qb] The same role the Galaxy eventually had: Defense in times of conflict and limited exporation (as a class)in times of peace. I imagine the Ambassador and Galaxy classes were used as explorers mabye 70% of their operational lifetimes at most and as troubleshooters within the Federation the rest of the time. Theses are the Federation's Big Guns and they'd want them handy in case of trouble. [/qb][/QUOTE]True, but I wouldn't have exploration so high. I mean look at the E-D it was stuck doing more diplomacy than exploration, had it lasted into the war it would have also had more combat than exploration IMO. [qb] [QUOTE]Eventually the newer, more powerful classes free up ships like the Ambassador to really explore: [/qb][/QUOTE]Like the Akira, Steamrunner, Sabre, and Norway each capable of fulfilling the same defensive roles as the Ambassador, on it's level if not higher. [qb] [QUOTE]that's why the Stargazer was out making exciting First Contact missions while the Ambassador's were used for patrols like the "C" was. It's really the only way I could justify ships like the Stargazer being a explorer when Ambassador class ships were available too. [/qb][/QUOTE]It's a good justification too. As for two other comments: Undoubtedly the Ambassador's numbers during TNG would be significantly lower as a direct result of the Cardassian Conflicts. The destruction or near destruction of the 7th Fleet could also explain why we never saw an Ambassador. 1) We all know that no matter how many Ambassadors tehre are they would be limited in number. 2) That limited number would likely mean that unless Starfleet saw it necessary to deploy a significant portion of the Ambassadors to that area of space they would exist in little numbers or none at all for the war effort. Owing that originally the Ambassadors wouldn't have been allowed to go on the long-term exploration missions they should have, then later they would be. This limits even more the amount of Ambassadors that would have remained within the area to be used for defensive. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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