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[QUOTE]Originally posted by kmart: [QB] I'm not sure if it was GALACTIC JOURNAL or STAR TREK INTERVIEWS, but some mag or book from 88 or 90 mentioned the walkthrough Justman and co did on the movie sets before starting on NextGen, and how they were so covered in cat droppings that they were considered in large part unuseable! Since cat crap is always a problem on these stages, I don't know why the situation would have been so dire in 1987, but that supposedly contributed to the decision to build a lot of it anew and mainly keep structural elements only. I've seen a lot of conflicting stuff about the degree of destruction of the bridge in III (most reports indicate that the lift doors were swapped out for balsa, so they were intact, but that a big hunk of the ceiling was destroyed for real), and since we only see a small section of the bridge in IV, I don't know how much of the original film bridge WAS intact at that point. Another point indicating the first bridge was pretty far gone: considering the budget crunch STV found itself in halfway during preprod, I can't see them spending the at-least quarter-mil for the new bridge while having to axe tons of big fx scenes if there was any chance they could have painted the old one over and used that instead. (Of course I've never understood why Zimmerman insisted on dropping half-a-mil on Paradise City when they could have just modified some old fort like the ranch location used in ARENA.) Hmm, just went digging through my files and found this bit from Zimmerman, which complicates the issue of the battle bridge even more than before. Take it with a grain of salt, but his words: (from a behind the scenes ST THE MAG article called DESIGNING THE INTERIORS OF THE USS ENT-D ... don't know which issue, I just yanked the useful stuff and trashed the mags before moving.) Zimmerman: The battle bridge itself was more of a copy of and an homage to the design of the original Enterprise. These were all literally designed new. I think for economy's sake we used the same molds for everything -- it was logical tha they woud be the same on tthe same ship. That battle bridge was built completely from new stuff; the one exception might have been the doors. I did save all the doors from [TMP]; they were very carefully done out of fiberglass. As a matter of fact, they're still in use on the E-E today." I don't know that I buy this 'designed and built from scratch' bit, as I'm pretty sure that Probert's own articles about trek designs indicate he designed with the idea of reusing whatever elements were at hand. The one other time I was convinced I was seeing phase II elements on TNG was in BOOBY TRAP. They're aboard the alien ship, and there is a closeup of the round/oval screen with the dead alien capt talking. That whole area looks very much like the pics of the PHASE II bridge unit sections as seen in pics that ran in FANTASTIC FILMS and STARLOG in the 70s (I'm pretty familiar with those shots; I carved up a LOT of books and mags while mocking up an illustrated book proposal to Pocket in 1992.) Sorry for going so far afield of the thread, but once I get focused on something ... (shrug) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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