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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Timo: [QB] Unlike the apparent majority of people here, I actually had a couple of days of Christmas holiday from the forum... :p ...But yes, I think the Polaris is a class unto its own, built specifically for some purpose that does not involve big deflector dishes or shuttlebays, and probably completed in an orderly manner by the very early 24th century. No other known Starfleet refitting has involved such major spaceframe changes - even in the rather absurd TMP refit, each component was merely replaced by a corresponding new one. Or do we also want to think of USS Yeager as an Intrepid refit, perhaps? And yeah, using the Intrepid impulse grilles as deflectors sounds splendid! I wonder if the kitbashing involved carving out the torp tubes, though - either the Connie part or the Intrepid parts would have to be slimmed down at the bow to fit there. And as for Scotty hitting that pipe, it would make perfect sense if the corridor was otherwise an old and utterly familiar one, but the pipe was an addition. It does protrude into the space in a very silly, afterthought'y manner. Scotty was probably thinking he'd be walking along a regular TOS-Connie or TMP-Connie corridor, neither of which would have this "new and improved" pipe. Be the ship a TOS-refit or a TMP-refit, it ain't dockyard-fresh, not with silly protruding pipes like that. Regarding the retiring of entire ship classes, it happens all the time in the real world. Ships in perfect working order are scrapped because they are a bit too expensive to operate, or won't have a crew ever again because newer ships drain the pool, or don't meet current mission specifications and can't be cheaply refitted. I don't see the Soyuz (or, say, the Constitution, Constellation or Polaris) mass retirements as anomalies in need of explaining. Timo Saloniemi [/QB][/QUOTE]
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