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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukhat: [QB] I thought it would be fun to post a conclusion to my original analysis from the opening post. 1. The U.S.S. Enterprise NCC-1701, Constitution Class. This new take on the venerable old Enterprise was designed by Ryan Church, who is best known for his work on the Star Wars prequels. Because it seems that this Enterprise is brand-new once Pike takes command and Kirk is serving as a cadet, this implies that any other Starfleet vessel shown will be an older design. [i]Yes, the Enterprise was brand-new. Yes, it was the only design of its kind in the movie. But...it's 3,000 feet...wait, it's 2,500 feet...no, it's 2,000 feet...wrong again! It's 2,357 feet :) Gentlemen, it's the Defiant for the 21st century.[/i] 2. The U.S.S. Kelvin NCC-0514, class unknown. The ship that Kirk's father served on twenty years ago. The ship consists of a flat saucer section, with a secondary hull above and a very large nacelle below. The ship is supposed to be smaller than the Enterprise, but probably not by much. Pike is rumored to have quoted to Kirk that his father saved 800 people during the Kelvin's "accident." Does this mean that the Kelvin had a crew complement of 800 or even more than that? [i]The Kelvin's class remains unknown. It did indeed have a crew of over 800 people. And it was probably much bigger in size than what was previously thought.[/i] 3. Other 23rd century Federation starships. I was less than thrilled to hear that they hired John Eaves to be the principle ship designer for this movie (sans the Enterprise), since I dislike his work because all his designs look the same regardless of race, organization, or time period that the ships belong. I'm hoping that at least with both the Enterprise and the Kelvin designs, he'll try to stick close to those aesthetics. With that said, we know at least that other Starfleet vessels will be shown, because they appeared destroyed over Vulcan in the trailer. These ships were part of the "Vulcan rescue fleet" to which the Enterprise also belongs, so it's reasonably certain we'll see them in their pre-destroyed state. We do see that the wreckage consists mainly of saucers and nacelles (or perhaps engineering sections, since the nacelles seem to be as large as they are. We definitely see one intact ship at the space station, although it is very small. It seems to consist of a small saucer with two nacelles attached to upward-pointing pylons. [i]First, let me start by apologizing for my negative comment about John Eaves' work. His blog gave me a better understanding of the design process in ST and why his designs tend to look the same...and anyway, he only designed shuttles in the movie. As for the ships, there are seven other vessels besides the Enterprise and the Kelvin (and the Kobayashi Maru), with at least three different classes total. But again, we don't know any class names.[/i] 4. Romulan starships (24th century). I'm assuming that any Romulan ships we will see will originate in the 24th century, or whatever future point in time Nero comes from. It is not at all certain that the "Narada" space-octopus thing is actually a Romulan ship. There is a description of the ship Nero actually uses to tether to Vulcan: "all angles, with chains drooping off the sides." [i]The Narada was a Romulan mining vessel, basically the Romulan equivalent of Red Dwarf, although it looks nothing like a Romulan ship. Obviously the above description was just bad hearsay. It is the only Romulan vessel from any era to appear.[/i] 5. Klingon starships. Since Nero is apparently being held prisoner on the Rura Penthe of the 24th century, and Anton Yelchin is quoted as saying that there are Klingon ships on the screen (possibly during Kirk's Kobayashi Maru test), it seems we may see Klingon vessels from both time periods. JJ Abrams said that there was a whole plot thread involving Klingons that he had to cut for story reasons. Hopefully the deleted scenes will be on the DVD release. [i]Klingon "warbirds" do appear in the KM scenario, and look remarkably like D7's. However, the scene where 47 warbirds were destroyed by Nero was cut. I'm guessing they were all the same type as the KM versions.[/i] 6. 24th century starships. So far, the only known 24th century vessel is old Spock's Vulcan time ship. I was sincerely hoping that old Spock came from far enough in the future that if there were any scenes there, the Enterprise-F would be shown. That would have been a great symbol of how long the Enterprise's legacy would have lasted to the average movie viewer. But that probably won't happen. [i]It didn't. The only 24th century ship (besides the Narada) was Spock's ship. Based just on the movie, the ship was of Vulcan origin, but described only as their "fastest ship." No "time core" as was previously stated, since it's not a timeship. It also has no name.[/i] 7. Other ships. If Trek history is to be followed, we may get to see the actual Kobayashi Maru freighter. Plus, there will be shuttles, escape pods, etc. that will or have already been shown. [i]Saw the KM, and it looked remarkably like a well-known fan design of the ship. Also, besides two or three types of shuttles, there were small support ships docked at the space station, which looked like small starships too. Hopefully we'll see all of these ships soon in future publications.[/i] [/QB][/QUOTE]
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