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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Captain Untouchable: [QB] I've been reading through this thread for a good hour or so now, and feel like some kind of creepy stalker for perving on all your thoughts in secret, so I figured I'd sign up and chime in. I'm still in the "not quite convinced" camp regarding #8. I've taken a look at the perspective shots people have done: its just that those engineering hulls are so damn fat that you'd expect to see *some* sign of the starboard hull behind the port nacelle. I'm just not seeing any indication of it there. I guess it makes sense to accept it as one of the 2-2 designs though; I can't see the logic in Starfleet having ships that are almost identical, aside from the number of pods hanging off the bottom. So yeah; I guess 1=4=7, and 2=3=8. I've been doing some pondering over what the ships might be; whether they're completely new designs, or bastardised versions of existing concepts. Presumably, the Kelvin should just plug straight in to the existing ship designs. The registry for the Kelvin drops her right in the middle of the [URL=http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Saladin_class]Saladin-class[/URL], and they certainly share the single nacelle. However, the [URL=http://memory-beta.wikia.com/wiki/Ranger_class]Ranger-class[/URL] features the over-saucer pod in the RPG graphics, and while she's got two nacelles, something about the Kelvin being a Ranger-class just sits better with me. Maybe its because the name is cooler! The 147-class reminds me a little of a Ptolemy-class, if it had snagged a nacelle from another ship. However, taking the rollbar into account, and the shape of the saucer, I'm guessing that its meant to be some sort of nuMiranda, or at least a tribute to that design. Its either that, or an entIntrepid that someone bolted the engineering hulls to. Weirdly, the 238-class makes me think of an Oberth before anything else. I guess its the way that the nacelles are mounted onto the saucer, and the sloping pylons to the engineering hull. The older Oberths have registries are only the next hundred up from the Kelvin though, and though the snaps we've got are quite small, they look more like Enterprise relatives than Kelvin relatives. Maybe its the colour of the hull? Someone mentioned a few pages ago that they thought it was weird that the Enterprise was still the 1701, despite having been delayed by... 13 years? I'm gonna flip things around and say that I'm glad of that, actually. Something about the way that Starfleet was approached in the movie conjured up images of it being quite a small venture still, particularly if the entire fleet could be tied up in a single battle so easily. Based on the formation of the Federation in 2161, we aren't even a century on from that, and they're meant to have produced 1600 ships? (Assuming that the Daedalus = NCC-100) Okay, most of the fleet was tied up, but only having eight starships left to defend Earth and Vulcan - two of the central planets in the Federation - seems a bit desperate to me. Unless there were already ships at Vulcan, which Nero destroyed before the Enterprise arrived? There was certainly a lot of debris. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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