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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Wes: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by The Mighty Monkey of Mim: That's really lame, though. It's like writing a story about a plane crashing after colliding with a flock of ostriches. (But ostriches don't fly! These ones do! They are unlike any ostriches known to science! Because I am the storyteller and I say so! It's fiction, what do you care??)[/QUOTE]Yes, but now you are comparing our knowledge of the Earth and it's phenomena with the Federation's knowledge of space and it's phenomena. Huge stretch. In the history of star trek how many 'new' things have occurred, space storms, fluidic dimensions, rings that make a planet's life immune to cellular degeneration, many different ways to time travel, different types of black holes, planets that exist in time pockets that are greatly accelerated from our own -- the list really goes on. In comparison, an "ultra nova" is really not that crazy. [QUOTE]Yes, there probably are as yet unknown phenomena that would seem unbelievable to us and yet exist nonetheless. This is not a catch-all excuse to invent nonsensical plot devices because you're too lazy to do some research and come up with something logical that doesn't violate basic universal physical laws. Science fiction is at least supposed to have some fundamental footing in, you know, actual [i]science[/i]. And all good fiction should be at least somewhat believable.[/QUOTE]Since when is Star Trek science, which is only vaguely based in real science, always believable under this level of scrutiny. Aside from what I mentioned, something used on Star Trek so often, a transporter, is pretty much completely and totally implausible, but because it's been in Star Trek since the 60's, we kinda just accept it exists. If you want to call an explanation flimsy? The "Hiesenburg Compensator" is as flimsy as it gets. [QUOTE]Besides, not even that flimsy non-explanation you cite was in the film. It's from a non-canon comic. [/QUOTE]The ultimate point of releasing a comic that greatly expands the new trek as it relates to the old Trek, and was mostly for the hardcore fans who really needed something to segway into the film and this new universe. I think it did a decent job of creating that uber-geeky trek atmosphere and kinda bringing it in to the more hip Abrams-verse... I understand the arguments that Nero was 2 dimensional and the entire store was sorta just there... but really this was a fun, exciting launching pad to the New Star Trek(tm). I think the Onion parody news article was spot on with how the hardest of hardcore fans will react to this new Trek. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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