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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Dukhat: [QB] ^I hate to burst everyone's bubble, but the ship in question is the Ahwahnee. In the screencaps of the actual filmed scene, the (lack of) lighting obscures the lower nacelles, just like the (lack of) lighting obscured the Chekov's secondary hull. However, in the different VFX passes shown in the BoBW BD special features, the lighting is better and I can (somewhat) clearly see the model's lower nacelles. I finally got a BluRay drive and ripped the special features section to an MP4 and made screencaps of the VFX passes, which I'll post ASAP. I'd still be interested in seeing Alice's sketch, though. Anyway, an observation about the scenes: I've pretty much been able to identify every single ship or piece of debris, save one: the mystery object that appears first above the Kyushu, and then later above the Buran. I speculated not long ago that it was the shuttle Kotoi, but now I'm not so sure. The frustrating thing is that while the VFX passes show almost every ship in good detail (especially the Buran), both this object and the Ahwahnee can hardly be seen at all, so I have no idea what it is save for a dark blurry shape that [i]looks[/i] like a flat saucer-like object with two nacelles underneath, like a Miranda. Of course it can't be that since the AMT Reliant model kit didn't come out until years after BoBW. It's also possible that the object is one of the pieces of saucer cut off of another ship. Again, due to the (lack of) lighting, it's just too hard to tell what it is. Also, I'm also pretty sure that the Melbourne's smaller nacelles are actually on some type of extension at the back of the saucer, and not at the end of the secondary hull (they look like they're much higher above the ship relative to the back of the secondary hull). The shot of the model in "Emissary" also seems to confirm this, and I remember Markus saying that was the case as well. If only that false-color photo of the model was true-color! :) [/QB][/QUOTE]
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