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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: [QB] From a general cinematic POV, I'm in comlpere agreement with Nim. I'll add to his examples the asteroid chase scene in attack Of tthe clones as being the best part of that movie for it's sound effects to destruction ratio- even if the objective was not achieved, the way Slave one's weaponry was presented as casually imprerssive really worked on the big screen (less so on DVD though). As to trek specificly though, it can still be awesome if handled right- back in Balance of Terror we saw ow starship combat would parallell submarine movies beacuse your target would never really be close enough to visually see- not when everyone has weaponry with ranges in the 20,000 km league. Hell, at such distances, you'd [i]really[/i] never be certain that the ship on sensors was ever really where you think it is, as data arriving at lightspeed would not accurately depict an enemy vessel moving at high speeds at such distances- only their heading- and the firing ship would use that to aproximate the enemy's position. Maybe (dramatic purposes aside) that's why Trek ships still manage to miss so often. ;) Add to this, the real possibility of FTL torpedos, and you'd have a nightmare of unseen (and undetectable) ordiance zipping into ships during massive fleet engagments... You'd need a Data on every ship's Helm, Tactical and Con to survive. And not just tapping away super fast either- I mean fully plugged in. Hmmm...a smart post-Nemesis era Klingon or Romulan ship might employ holographic wreckage to appear destroyed (some sort of sensor fooling bouy that projects wereckage) while the ship itself re-positions or retreats. Their enemies would be trusting to preliminary visual data (viewscreen) and sensors for long enough to be suckered. Aaaaaa...[i]this[/i] is why Flare endures. [QUOTE][b]The only real combat in season 3 was "The Tholian Web," but again, the Enterprise was trying to avoid a direct fight. When the gloves came off, the Enterprise blew the crap out of the Tholian ship. After that, they stayed out of range while the Enterprise was forced to remain stationary to recover Kirk. [/QUOTE][/b] This to me points to a much tougher Tholian ship design than is generally given credence. The mighty Enterprise raelly [i]really[/i] has to hose a Tholian ship to knock it flipping ass over teakettle....and Tholian ships are ot exactly huge warships either. It's likely they did not send their A-Listers to investigate some assinine "ghost ship". This likely accounts for why no one ever conquored them- cloaks would mean dick once they web in an area -though for practical puposes we'll go with what's shown on Enterprise and not the mind-numblingly long process shown in TOS. My reasoning for the Tholian's slow web was that it was geared to grab the [i]Intrepid[/i] and was something new they were trying (hey, if was Starfleet they'd hose it with the deflector for the same results, taking hours to prepare). [/QB][/QUOTE]
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