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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [QB] [QUOTE]Originally posted by FawnDoo: [qb] [QUOTE]Originally posted by Guardian 2000: [qb]He said both.[/qb][/QUOTE]Did he? Did he [i]really[/i]? [/qb][/QUOTE]Yes. Literally. Are we to pretend otherwise? [qb] [QUOTE] As others have pointed out, there's nothing in Discovery or Picard that backs up this point, that Alex Kurtzman is somehow ushering into canon a half century of printed works. Nothing.[/qb][/QUOTE]I don't know enough about the literature to contest this point, but there are many who disagree. There are references to Section 31's Control AI created by David Mack prior to Discovery, for example, and the general tone and feel of things. But again, even if they're not extremely successful at active incorporation, that doesn't negate the fact that the non-canon informs their thinking *by design*, or that it is canon to them *by decree*. As noted previously, if we reverse the situation and have active incorporation without the decree, the canon policy is not changed thereby. Thus, even if the claim of zero incorporation were true, it is not relevant. [qb] [QUOTE]And to go back to my broader point - this discussion serves as a perfect example of why it's dangerous to allow reverence for canon to become such a prime motivator that it gets in the way of telling an engaging story.[/qb][/QUOTE]If a writer views canon as a straitjacket, they're approach is all wrong, prima facie. Decades of mostly-careful world-building ought not be discarded because something seems kewl to some hack. For example, I care so little about the universe of Lord of the Rings that Borg nanoprobes overlook my concern in passing as your car might overlook a nematode on a blade of grass. My knowledge of the universe is similarly lean. But, hypothetically, let's say that there was a tie-in fiction series that paid well and for which it was thought someone similar might have talent, "similar interests" (as presumed via sci-fi), name recognition, or connections, so they're hired. There's nothing to stop this person from trying to cram in some research and get just enough to have some "good story" that they try to work in to the universe. For instance, suppose I wanted to adapt First Contact, so I make a story on a sailing ship and have Orcs or something capable of something like assimilation or SG-1-Replicator-esque reproduction (using some magic whatzits long known to Orc-kind), so that within like a day you have a miniature, claustrophobic version of the huge battle from one of the movies. Wowwee, what a story that could be! . . . except I just invalidated that movie battle by making the army capable of appearing from nowhere like a fleet of sequel-trilogy Star Destroyers, didn't I? God, canon is such a straitjacket! . . . Or maybe I am a hack who should've spent a lot more time researching the universe, learning its subtleties, imagining what life must be like for the common person, pondering deeply what each fact entails about other facts in the vast connected history, and so on. Otherwise, I'm just some asshole who decided to make the Federation leadership and citizenry evil instead of enlightened becausee it would be kewl, despite the fact that the place avoided that for hundreds of years of filmed canon. But hey, Articles of the Federation was kewl, amirite? Let's take that the next step further. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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