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Reverend
Member # 335
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This one was done at the request of BolianAdmiral over on TrekBBS and as the title suggests it is a TNG-era shuttlepod based on some concept sketches, done I'm told by Rick Sternbach during the run of TNG. As to why it was never used, you'll have to ask the man himself, however it's a good bet that it had to do with the expense of building a full scale mock-up. Either that or the show's inheritance of the ST:V mock-ups.
In developing the original sketches into these schematics I conjectured that it was an intermediary design between the boxy milk-float we know as the Type-15 and the Defiant's own Type-18 (I checked Ex-Astris and apparantly the Type-16 is a slightly scaled up Type-15.) Logically it could just have easily been an earlier design, with the '15 being a smaller more economic follow-up but my instinct told me that it looked more like a later, more capable design.
Axeman has already posted some 3D renders of the design in my BoBW Thread, also on TrekBBS, so feel free to check those out (I'm sure more are to come.)
SC1-P17 Scale chart
Original Sketch 1 Original Sketch 2 Original mock-up [ January 01, 2004, 11:30 AM: Message edited by: Reverend ]
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Mark Nguyen
Member # 469
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Scale chart no workee...
But other than that, cool!
Mark
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Reverend
Member # 335
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It should work now.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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MUCH better (and more believable!) than the shuttlepod used in the series. Nice work.
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Looks good Reverend. Are you planning on doing any other shuttlecraft designs?
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Just for a bit of fun. Liveries
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Topher
Member # 71
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LOL! The Ford Prefect! Attached to the S.S. Heart of ?
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Aban Rune
Member # 226
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Dem fine work, m'boy. Dem fine work.
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Jason Abbadon
Member # 882
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So does the Indiana Jones have a matching workbee called the Short Round?
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Fleet-Admiral Michael T. Colorge
Member # 144
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Where did that mock up come from?
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Dat
Member # 302
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Wow, the SS Heart of Gold and her shuttlepod Ford Perfect. So you think the E-D did have a shuttle Indiana Jones. Is there a Sam Freedle too?
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KoshNaranek
Member # 1194
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Fleet-Admiral,
That mock-up is a preliminary study model that Rick Sternbach made up out of cardboard and bondo. The shuttle was at first a concept to replace the small 1st season TNG shuttlepod, and then, was revisited as a short-lived concept for a shuttlecraft design for Voyager.
The image comes from a vidcap from the "Journey's End" VHS, which was basically celebrating the end of TNG. They were interviewing Rick Sternbach, and the model is sitting atop his filing cabinet, in his Paramount office. I believe that the full image is available on his website, for which there is a link at the Ex Astris Scientia site.
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Harry
Member # 265
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What's that logo on the Starbug?
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Shame on you Harry! Go watch some Red Dwarf, right now!
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Don't say I never give you anything.
The Bug The Midget The Dwarf The Proof
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Axeman 3D
Member # 1050
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Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast!
Tis done, the revamped Type-17 in all it's compact glory.
Rear 3/4 view of Type 17 shuttle Front 3/4 view of Type 17 shuttle Side view of Type 17 shuttle Front view of Type 17 shuttle Rear view of Type 17 shuttle Top view of Type 17 shuttle Type 17 shuttle in shuttlebay-2
For those interested, I'll stick the model up for download on my site sometime this week when I do my update. The decals and markings were made by Reverend, and there'll probably be a couple of spare sets to show different ships and organisations by that time, he likes to give people choices.
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Reverend
Member # 335
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Ah, it's finally done...until I design the interior that is.
Excellent work as always of course! But now come the inevitable note *dramatic chord*. First off I think you've made the engines a little too visible. I think the effect I'm after is similar to the light sources you had on the IAV-106's impulse drive, but with the 'spots' merging into a stripe and just with the barest hint of an underlying mechanism, so try increasing the opacity to about 80 or 90%. Also the smaller 'nozzles' at the top should be ignited too. Now that I look at it, just how much of the engine block did you model? I can't make out anything except the nozzles and they were supposed to be buried inside
Secondly the manual door handles; is it my imagination or have you mapped those on there?
Thirdly that round shape on the aft door should be a very low dome instead of just a raised circle.
Finally, with the blue vents at the back it looks like you've either mapped it on or it's lacking the little half covers thingies. Ok, that's not very clear...think those metal air vent covers you get in buildings, that direct the airflow down instead of straight ahead.
I was actually going to post this criticism at TrekBBS, but somehow this board feels more...comfortable.
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Have you done any design variants, modifications, of the shuttle?
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Axeman 3D
Member # 1050
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We've made the original version minus the warp drive systems, so it really is just a shuttlepod in this version.
Type-17 shuttlepod front 3/4 view Type-17 shuttlepod rear 3/4 view
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Sarvek
Member # 910
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Is there any profile views showing the changes made to the existing shuttlecraft?
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Ace
Member # 389
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Well, the most significant difference I can see is that the warp nacelles no longer have a grill.
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Dat
Member # 302
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If they are no longer warp nacelles, then what would they be? Deuterium tanks for the impulse engines? Or just a step for getting in and out of the shuttle?
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Reverend
Member # 335
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The lack of a warp grill is the only change made to the mesh and yes, I imagine the nacelles would become deuterium tanks.
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