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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Reverend: [QB] First off, I didn't ascribe ownership of Trek to anyone. Secondly if [i]" The realities of the Trek world dictate how you see it."[/i] and [i]"The crap on screen is nothing more or less than the product of lazy writers"[/i] then I have to ask, why are you watching something that you think is crap? As for TOS being militant, that was simply not so (nor for that matter was DS9). Again, as I pointed out before the confusion seams to come from an inability to distinguish the difference between killing someone in self defence or killing them because you didn't like they way they're looking at you. Starship Troopers is militant, Star Trek is not. TOS was certainly a bit on the cavalier side compared to TNG, as was DS9 but that had more to do with the setting than any fundamental philosophical delineation. The galaxy in TOS was a very wild place and took place mostly on the edge of what was known and as such was far more dangerous than in the time of TNG where space was by and large a much safer place, still in both shows the drama was always in the character and situations, not in the body count. DS9 on the other hand was a frontier show, like TOS and as such didn't feel as "safe as TNG did". That doesn't mean they went around looking for trouble. As for comparing Starfleet to a modern ocean surveyor armed with nukes is a gross over exaggeration and betrays a total lack of comprehension. The oceans of today are NOTHING like space in the fictional 23rd or 24th centuries. If you must draw a nautical allegory then perhaps the Royal Navy of the 17 & 1800's would be more appropriate. Back then it wasn't unusual for a military ship to sail for reasons other than those of a purely military nature. The six gun HMS Beagle being a famous example or indeed the voyages of John Harrison. Now I wouldn't take that allegory too far as by all accounts Starfleet is primarily an exploitive agency. To my thinking they were only charged with the defence of the Federation because A) They're out there already B) in the early days they were the only organisation with sufficient experience to do the job that WASN'T a standing military (like say the Andorian Guard or the Vulcan High Command) and so were the only ones trusted by all sides to co-ordinate defence and police the mutual borders and of course B) they were open to members from all worlds. The closest thing in sci-fi that I know of would be the Rangers on B5, at least after the ISA was formed. To keep the peace, not enforce the peace. HUGE difference. [/QB][/QUOTE]
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