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[QUOTE]Originally posted by StationMaster: [QB] Andrew.... going to go through your points. [QUOTE]Originally posted by AndrewR: [qb] Basically it's Angel, and I don't mind in the slightest! [/qb][/QUOTE]Sorry - but Angel was written and developed by one of the finest writing minds out there. Torchwood also has some of the best writers out there, but the simple plain fact is, they have squandered every single opportunity to do watchable stories. In a five minute block of one single ep, you got more depth, more enjoyment and awesome writing (at least in the first two seasons) than Torchwood has had all series. I will admit, I am being over critical, but the truth is, I expected so much more from the people who brought us the new Doctor Who. This has also been exemplefied by the fact they would not stop the constant hyping up of Torchwood during Season Two of the New Doctor Who. Perhaps if this build up had not happened, then the massive anticlimax that was the series would not have happened either and maybe the series could have stood alone and found its feet. [QUOTE]Originally posted by AndrewR: [qb] Who cares if a friggin' 4WD is one type or another. It's just a black 4WD. Sheesh! [/qb][/QUOTE]Okay.... as I said, I am a bit of a car nut. But, going back to your comment about Angel..... What did he drive? A cool, classic American open top (with added irony as he was a vamp....) That car said alot about Angel and who he was. So what does the Landrover Discovery with added Pimp my Ride say about Jack and the rest of Torchwood..... Is it low key.... no. It sticks out like a sore thumb. Super Secret Organisation, above the police, beyond the Government. Incognito. And they drive the Pimp my Ride Disco? With added Super secrecy as it has "Torchwood" plastered on it? And where do they park it? Anyone who follows it, will find their super secret base in no time. It is not exactly hard to miss. And with their base being smack in the middle of Cardiff city centre, with busy streets, etc, nobody is going to miss it. My whole point is that the "SUV" is a product of bad writing and development. It does not fit with the series, it has no place within the series. It does not suit the characters, it does not suit the organisation, and it completely goes against everything Torchwood is meant to stand for. In fact, thinking about it, it reminds me of the Bat Mobile. Except Torchwood does not exactly have a bat cave to hide it in. Torchwood, unlike Doctor Who was developed by piecing together bits. There was no genesis idea. Russell T Davis said way before the series came out that he wanted Torchwood to be "X-Files and thats life (a British comedy thing from the 80's)" Watching Torchwood I can see the mix they have used. Take Doctor Who, separate the Tardis from the mixture then beat vigerously with a cup of the X-Files. In a separate bowl, take a cup of Angel and mix with a pinch of Star Gate and Star Trek, followed by a cup full of reused plot line from various sources. Gently mix the two bowls together (otherwise curdling will occur) and slowly introduce a little bit of CSI and Bones in to the mix, then bake for 20 minutes at Gas mark 5. Once finished, liberally sprinkle The Chronicles or Riddick, I know what you did last Summer, and various soft Porn titles as a topping. And there you have it.... Torchwood. The proverbial Frankenstein's Monster of Sci Fi. Chris [/QB][/QUOTE]
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