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[QUOTE]Originally posted by Nim: [QB] [QUOTE]Mars, I have since seen that "missing scene" online- which begs the question of "where is it?" later on-[/QUOTE]Script and dialogue says that LV-223 is not LV-426, whether you like it or not. Barring a return to LV-223 in a future movie, we're probably not going to see that particular individual again, the scene was just a courtesy for us, an expensive bonus scene to make us fans happy, and most of us appreciated it. [QUOTE]Why a fully grown alien emerging from the Engineer? That's too stupid- I mean..'comon Ridley Scott![/QUOTE]You're wrong, it is not fully grown, it's a newborn chestburster, just larger than human-spawned equivalents. It's still stunted and lacks a tail. If you are going to continue claiming that the [URL=http://i.imgur.com/UZ3Y9.jpg]Prometheus-alien[/URL] is too developed to be a newborn, here's the newborn [URL=http://www.propbay.com/attachments/original/2851d1334220126-alien-baby-chest-burster-image-10-.jpg]Rottweiler/Cow-alien from AlienĀ³.[/URL] [QUOTE]I also think Scott has some disdail for the Cameron and later Alien franchise movies as nothing in this can work with those later films- no Alien Queen laying eggs, etc.[/QUOTE]It's obvious that the "queen" role in Prometheus is filled by Shaw, negating the need for an egg stage in that particular incident. Shaw-facehugger/engineer-protoalien. That doesn't preclude future queens from other sources. [QUOTE]Still, NOTHING is worse and more blatantly ignorant than David being able to speak and pronounce the engineer's language.[/QUOTE]You have no way of knowing that. What we saw was David using his best guesstimate and approximation in a foreign language he'd studied on paper and in theory, then getting his head ripped off. Whether he insulted the engineer's mother, we'll never know. An aside: that scene, gritty as it was, would've been 150% better if David's head, when all action was over and the room quiet again, had said "Whoops". [QUOTE]if the alien-squid-baby was made by the black goo changing the DNA of a carbom based daddy and a carbon based mommy and then "facehugs" a carbon based Engineer (and he'd certainly have to be to have seeded life on earth) then how would we get the scilicon-based critter from the 1978 movie?[/QUOTE]I'm gonna take a stab and say that the black goo provides the silicon blueprint/framework, which laid dormant until needed. The black goo is the macguffin, (see "Heisenberg compensator"), it does whatever is required of it, and is so far removed from calculable, measurable data as to be indistinguishable from magic at this point. [QUOTE]Jason has the NERVE TO CONTINUE: So the laser was [b]not[/b] actually a laser now? tha's a pretty huge stretch[/QUOTE]Not at all, you beast. Kane calls it "a thin layer of mist, that reacts when broken", not a forcefield, not an electric barrier. To audiences of 1979 (go Nim!), laser-smoke effects were still a pretty big deal, but it was just meant to be funky. I think it's organic, you see smoke puffs coming from the floor (to make the beam visible, of course, but narrative-wise could be emitted from the dormant eggs). Hell, you have a primitive version of that covering your own skin, a few centimeters above the surface. Sit in a draft and lose that layer for long enough and you'll sneeze. Coincidentally, Kane did say it was "like the goddamn tropics in here". I say it's an organic biosensor, perhaps so the egg doesn't attack tumbleweeds? [QUOTE]SO, to be clear- your supposition is that there was in fact an Alien Queen somewhere else on board, and an egg chamber, but it's...just coincidence that the thing that burst out of the Engineer looks just like a blue Alien?[/QUOTE]No, I never claimed any queen or egg(s) exists in Prometheus' engineer ship. Quite the opposite, the intricate and bewildering mode of development in Prometheus precluded an egg stage, except for the one Shaw provided from her own broken babymaker. [QUOTE]Okay, I'll do your movie defense for you here and say that the Engineers capture naturally occuring Aliens from somewhere and distill the Alien's essense to use as a bio-weapon[/QUOTE]No, don't! That's oversimplification, the movie leaves it ambiguous which is chicken or egg or invented egg in "Prometheus". The canister-room has a [URL=http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6ej46jrPl1rtvb1so1_1280.jpg]mural depicting an Engineer "harnessing", sculpting or subduing an alien-like creature (without the Giger-headpiece)[/URL], suggesting the engineers either stumbled upon them , made them or are their cousins, in some Jekyll/Hyde relationship. I prefer to think they scratch-built them, since the engineers are shown to be able to break themselves down into primordial soup at will. Even if just to get away from the office. [QUOTE] possibly the black goo is some kind of "royal jelly" secretion that naturally makes an asexual or bi-gendered drone into a Queen when no female eggs are present to continue a hive (to bring Earth bees into the comparison).[/QUOTE]That would kinda make sense- and would explain the general shapes of the giganto hugger and final Engineer-alien.[/quote] Don't get me wrong, I'm all for hypotethizing about these kinds of things, that's Flare at its best to me. In the case of the goo, it's a macguffin and does whatever is needed of it, otherwise they would've stuck in a scene where Shaw and David looks at a holocomputer and discusses the goo in detail, other than the sweeping "it reacted to our entering the room" statement, which is kind of exotic to me anyway, almost sexy. No, if Scott wanted to pander to the uber-fans he would've released a flow chart with goo-parts, obviously he doesn't put as much importance in that element of the mythos, any more than George Lucas indulges fans who ask how the lightsaber "blade" actually works (hint: Lucas calls them laserswords in work lingo, that's his level of commitment to that piece of the saga). I don't blame Lucas for some of his stances. I would punch any fan who came up to me and asked what Luke's favorite genre of "jizz" would be, if he had any? But back to Prometheus. I think it's great! [/QB][/QUOTE]
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