quote:I was pretty disapointed in Shelob's apparant lack speaking ability.
That's a waste of energy then because Shelob never spoke a word in the book, we just got some of her thoughts, like "she hated the light in front of her" or "she'd never remembered feeling a pain like this sword in her belly".
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quote:Originally posted by Daniel Butler: Speaking of accents, I'm not sure what accent the Elves used in LotR...I mean if that's a real accent or just a "hey this sounds Elfy" accent somebody came up with...but I thought Live Tyler did a pretty good job of sounding elvish, anyway.
Difficult to tell. Mostly I'd say it's received pronunciation with a very slight Welsh lilt. It differs though, from actor to actor.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: I'm probably the only man on earth that finds her creepy and unattractive. Seriously, give it ten years and she;ll be her dad in drag....((shudder))
I could see Tom Jane as Bard.
Speaking of the Hobbitt, I just last week bought the old Bass and Rankin animated Hobbit. Bilbo looks really...froggy. The Dwarves look completely unthreatening and Smaug looks like a giant cat with wings. Still, it holds a dear place in my heart (right next to all that shrapnel).
Alll I can say is, those spiders better fucking talk! I was pretty disapointed in Shelob's apparant lack speaking ability. And yes, I want singing goblins: singing pyromaniac goblins were a big influence on my impressionable young mind.
I think I can see both sides of the "Liv argument", though I dare say she'll age much better than most of her contemporaries and with a lot less surgical intervention.
As for casting Bard; that's probably the easiest part to cast as the business is full of actors who specialise in the whole rugged handsomeness and strength thing. Tom Jane seams a little small though, isn't the character supposed o be really tall, or am I only remembering Bilbo's perspective? I'd cast Adam Baldwin and change to the character's full name to "Hero of Laketown, the man they call Bard".
As for the whole talking animals bit, it's probably the only thing that worries me about this film, after they went to such pains to make the world seam "real" in the LoTR. I can see a couple ways of approaching it but my favourite so far is they way it was done in "Princess Mononoke" with the normal animal sounds coming out of their mouths overlaid with a distorted (slightly inhuman sounding) human voice. The explanation being that the "pure" breeds of middle Earth and those that are incarnations of powerful spirits have a supernatural power of speech where say, the wargs from the film were more of a mongrel breed and more bestial than the ones from the Hobbit. If memory serves there is a tradition in Tolkines works they there is a "divine" breed for all the animals in middle Earth, like for instance Shadowfax and the Giant Eagles, most of whom could at least understand elvish. In the case of the Spiders, if I remember my Tolkien lore they're second generation descendents of a powerful spider shaped spirit from the First age, so they're in a similar category.
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Yesh, Ungoliant was in level with the other ainur in power, according to sources, and took a spider shape when entering into arda. Shelob is a descendant and the mirkwood critters are far descended from her.
I hope Beorn will look enough of a fluffy grizzly (or one of those Warcraft druid-bears) that he doesn't look too much like Iorek Byrnison.
I thought they got it right with Treebeard's voice-layer technique. Most people I've watched LOTR with have never instinctively recognized Rhys-Davies in there.
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I never thought Liv was attractive until I saw her as Arwen. Just about any woman is attractive as an elf...
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