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I've just finished watching it, and honestly I don't quite understand what the whole point of that was. It's completely predictable and exactly like a bad Sy Fy channel TV movie, just with a few Trek references thrown in. That's not in any way a good thing. I want my 90 minutes back.
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It was a strange out-of-body experience. I knew I was watching Star Trek without really feeling like I was watching Star Trek. Instead, some weird GotG/Suicide Squad/Jupiter Ascending fan film knock-off. The characterisation and dialogue were all over the place. The editing, frenetic. The fight scenes, incomprehensible. The mole’s motives, nonsensical. They make out Zeph to be a meat-head then give him some intelligent (ish) dialogue. Sone comedy moments, you can see what they’re trying to do but it doesn’t work - the Godsend/God’s End routine. Philippa deciding Garrett is a “chaos goblin” on no real evidence (and Garrett then embracing it). And yes, the Godsend goes from being this ultimate weapon (I thought of the Moment from Doctor Who) that causes a chain reaction across a whole quadrant, to just a big (subspace-rupturing?) bomb.
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Maaaan, my film groups were not wrong about this Section 31 thing. Like, I knew it wunt gonna be great, but GOTDAM. I'm only about a third the way through it & it is a chore.
I already got a lotta thoughts, sure to have more, but there's really no point.
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It does leave me wondering - what is the barometer for success, here; and what does success promise? They’ll have their viewing stats from the app, of course, and I presume if they’re good (big if there, but these are hypotheticals I’m talking) then what’s on the table? Another S31 film? Whee… Or, more standalone streaming Treks films? This is something that many have wanted for a long time, it’s a no-brainer in many ways.
But then again, PIC was the only nuTrek to make any top ten weekly streaming lists (I don’t think DSC ever managed that?) and it didn’t make Legacy any more of a reality.
And all that’s before you get to the elephant in the room: this film has been SLATED from all sides. Not even TrekMovie, usually slavish in its unquestioning adulation of anything Trek (so much so that I often wonder whether the site’s genesis, as a fansite collating info on the ‘09 film, was actually studio-encouraged astroturfing) pulled any punches.
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Wow, this movie is an atrocity and a chore to watch. I've only managed a third so far. How this Star Dreck got 2 points from Bernd is beyond me.
It always rubbed me the wrong way how Georgiou was treated by Burnham and the Discovery crew. And I always thought it to be completely tone deaf to make a mass murder and connoisseur of exotic meats the center of a Trek movie. But they put one on top and made her murder her family as well.
How did Section 31 get all these clips from the show for their intelligence briefing on Georgiou?
Fuzz, Quasi, Dada Noe, Madame Du Franc. Were the trying to achieve Star Wars level of stupid names?
It didn't take Sherlock Holmes level of perceptiveness to spot the Section 31 operatives. Yet again Section 31 is acting quite openly. Nothing like the shadow organization in DS9. A mere lieutenant is entrusted with the knowledge of the organisation's existance and is supposed to keep them in check? And according to Garrett she's a top tier science officer so why is she relegated to this duty? The actresses' performance so far is underwhelming. Sure, she says all the right things about what Starfleet is supposed to be, but her delivery is unconvincing and bland.
I was almost turning it off when they introduced Irish Frank. What were they smoking?
Technology-wise (like that nifty phase shifting device) nothing suggests early 24th century.
All the people responsible for this should never ever be allowed to work on Star Trek again.
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