- Bev is on a ship that is boarded by wrong’uns. The ship… it’s like a sort-of Nova saucer, but with two catamaran booms. The nacelles are outboard of these booms (rather than being integral like on the Steamrunner). A straight horizontal boom connects the two catamaran booms at midpoint, with a very smallish “pod” in the middle. It’s on this pod that the baddies’ ship docks. The ships name appears to be USS L… something, maybe seven or eight letters. - There is a new USS Titan. It’s a classic-configuration ship designed by Bill Krause who designed the TOS Stargazer. Terry Matalas calls it the Titan-A - God, I hope fucking not. He also refers to it as a “neo-Constitution” (neocon?!). - And it appears to be under the command of one Commander… Hansen? O’Nine? Yes, her. - Also seen: a two-nacelle version of some STO ship - the Sagan-class? - called the Echelon-class. From Dave Blass, there are two of these in the show:
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The first shot of the Catamaran ship, from the rear, I thought it was an NX-Class.
I ... loathe both the design of the Titan, and also that it's an -A. I mind the addition of letters to registry in Discovery much less because we've gone well forward in time, but I really just don't care for the use in TNG/DS9/VOY-era Trek.
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Hard agree. Maybe we’ll get lucky, maybe calling it the Titan-A is just shorthand that’s become common among the production staff. Giving the Discovery a suffix was weird (and massively complicates fitting “Calypso” into the canon, if that’s even something they’re pretending to intend to do at some point) but relatively minor by Disco-howler standards.
And it’s not even correct, really. There was another Titan before the Luna-class one. But it’s hard to care, it’s PIC after all and the omens aren’t good for s3 being any better than the other two…
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Per Krause on Twitter, Matalas basically asked him at one point what the Shangri-La would look like with STP nacelles, and that basically became the ship.
All those years of careful maintenance of the future period-piece, and it just takes one guy to be like "hey, that tall-sailed wooden ship would look sweet with F-35s taking off from it."
-------------------- . . . ceterum censeo Carthaginem esse delendam.
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In my opinion Matalas should've stayed away from the treknological parts of PIC.
I had my first doubts about him when he claimed that the new Stargazer was a refit of the old Stargazer. And now he seems to be the main force behind the anachronistic Titan-A.
Slapping PIC nacelles on a TMP design, naming it Constitution III class because you're a fan of the Constition class and adding an A suffix for good measure is just an asinine way to design a (hero) starship.
He also claims that Beverly's ship is an old TNG vessel even though it looks very much 25th century-ish.
He also gives a rather petulant impression on Twitter and Facebook and doesn't take well to criticism, even constructive one. So I must wonder if Bass, Drexler, and Krause are really totally on board with his vision or were simply overruled and now have to put a good face on the matter.
quote:Maybe we’ll get lucky, maybe calling it the Titan-A is just shorthand that’s become common among the production staff.
Bill Krause has already confirmed NCC-80102-A on Facebook.
quote:No ship but Enterprise should have a suffix.
I'm not totally against suffixes for other ships, but they should be earned. And I didn't get the impression that Riker and his Titan earned this privilege.
quote:Also seen: a two-nacelle version of some STO ship - the Sagan-class? - called the Echelon-class
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Oh yeah - it starts February 16 in the US, or 17 February for the rest of us, presumably still on Prime unless they pull it two days before - of course, they’d never do THAT!
I guess worst case scenario, we get a “proper TNG send-off” that leaves us wishing they’d just left it as it was, with Nemesis their swan-song. A bit like how the whole SW sequel trilogy really needn’t have happened at all…
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Now Matalas is saying it’s a refit Constitution Refit. A Constitution Refit Refit!
I feel like that battle droid in Episode 1, saying “Coruscant? That doesn’t compute…”
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Oh God. It’s just occurred to me. They said we’d see AN Enterprise. Suppose… you don’t think they… we don’t KNOW what happened to the 1701-A… surely not?
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