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Gvsualan
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quote:
Originally posted by newark:
Did I read correctly, seven years into the future, Captain Archer signs the Federation Charter?

For those keeping track, this is a continuity error - how bad I'll leave to you. The TNG episode "Outcasts" stated Charter Day was in 2161. If we follow the chronology of this episode, this alters the date of the Charter Day to 2159 or 2160 which in itself contradicts the official chronology of Mike Okuda which states the Romulan War was fought in those years.

Oh my, oh my! [Eek!]

No...its supposed to be 2154 (T'pol misspoke)...as stated above. Add 7, and youse got 2161. Its all good, my brotha.

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Jason Abbadon
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Well, at least Earth being somehow altered by Remans/Drakh/Space vampires/whatever, explains why the Intrepid and Iceland never showed up to kick ass.

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Its probably all to do with those pesky Sphere builders. With all the anomalies they created around the weapon when it went in a vortex, they could have easily fucked it up so that it went back to the '40s. Of course, that doesn't explain the alien Nazi dude. Maybe the Temporal Cold War has gone back a century? If the Nazi guy is supposed to be a Reman, that could reinforce the idea that Future Guy is Romulan...

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Manticore
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Chalk me up in the WTF crowd, though I am intrigued...

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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quote:
Originally posted by Futurama Guy:
Hmm...so using my Holmes-like deducing: My guess is the Enterprise-way around the never seeing a Romulan in the Earth-Romulan War, just keeping the timeline somewhat intact is by using the Remans in all face-to-face combat...

Let us hope not, as Nemesis seemed quite clear on the point that the Feds knew next-to-nothing about the Remans; even their appearance was a mystery.

Additionally, there is Spock's original line from "Balance of Terror" (TOS):
"As you may recall, this conflict was fought, by standards today, with primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels which allowed no quarter, no captives, nor was there even ship-to-ship visual communication. Therefore, no human, Romulan, or ally has ever seen the other."


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Jason Abbadon
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I think we can safely disregard that whole line at this point.

Even ships with a lower level of tech than NX-01 have visual ship-to-ship communications.

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Maybe the ROMULANS were the ones without ship-to-ship visual communication ... er, I don't know why but ... maybe! [Smile]

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Manticore
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Or maybe they just didn't want to have visual comms?

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I always thought that, when Spock said "ally", he was referring both to Earth's allies and the Romulans' allies. So, no-one on Earth's side saw anyone from the Romulans' side, even if the people in question weren't actually human or Romulan.
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GODWIN'S LAW!!!

http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/g/Godwin_s_Law.html

It's done - no more, fin�...

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Not only are they in the 1940s, but the master race has a Reman... wierd wierd.. wierd... Is season 4 going to be LOST IN SPACE?

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I can't wait for season 4. Where are Cryo-Satlelites when I need them
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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I HAVE JUST HAD AN EPIPHANY.

Maybe.

quote:
"As you may recall, this conflict was fought, by standards today, with primitive atomic weapons and in primitive space vessels which allowed no quarter, no captives, nor was there even ship-to-ship visual communication..."

Given two centuries of historical perspective, one might see this as an apt description of WW2-era combat, no?

Just how creative *are* the thinkers behind the fourth season?

-MMoM [Big Grin]

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Wow. That would be interesting... [Big Grin]

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Here's the interesting thing, I can think of two easy scenarios.

a) time travel
b) alternate reality

a) Enterpise might have been warped by blowing up the sphere, it also explains why both Enterprise and Archer were in "olde" land. The difficulty lies in explaining why Reed and Sato were shifted in time too considering they were away from both Enterprise and the weapon.
The alien might just be (yet another) player in the temporal cold war.

b) Blowing up the sphere had unintended consequences, somehow affecting everything.

c) I suppose there's also the possbility of conspiracy theories. i.e. The Suliban wanted to get Archer out of the way dealing with the Xindii to do something weird to Earth, the Xindii were behind it all, who knows.

quote:
Originally posted by Dukhat:
The Nazi alien didn't look like a Reman to me. He looked more like a Drakh from Babylon 5, with blue skin.

Either way, I'm now totally confused.

Well.
Admiral Thrawn was of the blue skin and red eye persuation [Wink]

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