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Spike
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Finally (?) a good look at the Kobayashi Maru.

https://shop.eaglemoss.com/de/star-trek---die-offizielle-raumschiffsammlung/uss-kobyashi-maru-modell

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Too bad it's not a ship you'd want to look at...
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Shik
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A Kobayashi Maru, not...THE...Kobayashi Maru.

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Dukhat
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Hey, I started this post way back in 2008. Yay me.

And that K. Maru model isn’t very accurate to the actual CGI model.

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Guardian 2000
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I certainly never imagined THE Kobayashi Maru as a Starfleet ship. The registry of "Amber, Tau Ceti" whatever doesn't scream Starfleet, nor did Vance.

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWvolumetrics.html#mozTocId95903

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Spike
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Some more views:
https://www.herocollector.com/en-gb/Article/star-trek-starships-specials-reveal

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Dukhat
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quote:
Originally posted by Guardian 2000:
I certainly never imagined THE Kobayashi Maru as a Starfleet ship. The registry of "Amber, Tau Ceti" whatever doesn't scream Starfleet, nor did Vance.

http://www.st-v-sw.net/STSWvolumetrics.html#mozTocId95903

It’s not a Starfleet ship. The ECS in the registry stands for Earth Cargo Service (or Ship).

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Guardian 2000
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Ah, missed that . . . I was fixated on the new "USS" and saucer shape. It does have Starfleet pennants, though. I'd still just as soon assume it to be a non-Starfleet-esque design in Prime.

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The thing is, there's no reason for the Kobayashi Maru to even have a design. Even within the context of the fictional Trek universe, it is itself a fictional ship in a training simulation. In the version we saw in TWoK, the simulation didn't show any sort of representaion of the appearance of the ship on the screen. Even if it sometimes did, though, for all we know the programmers of the simulation might change things up every time they make updates. Maybe, for a few months, the ship is a freighter out of Tau Ceti. Then they make some tweaks to the simulation, and the next class of cadets is dealing with USS Kobayashi Maru, a Starfleet science vessel. Then, a year later, they make some more changes, and the Kobayashi Maru is a privately-owned passenger vessel.

Basically, any attempt to say what the ship is or looks like seems meaningless, because there could easily be hundreds of versions of it over the years.

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Yep, and I'm sure the scenario is totally different in the 24th century with a more time appropriate design and foe.
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Lee
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That is fucking hideous, and I say that as the creator of the Baywatch-class.

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Is that the one with the dual spherical primary hulls and the gaping deflector above that really ought to have been a huge ramscoop?

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Lee
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Yes. Funny thing, I went looking for a picture of it a while back, and found that somebody on DeviantArt had coloured it in.

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Duck egg blue or fleshtones?

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I just read that the USS Mayflower in the 2009 Star Trek movie was a Miranda-class.

Mind blown

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