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Well, fucking FINALLY. Even if it is only one new class - granted, about a hundred of the damn things, but whatever happened to infinite diversity in infinite combinations?
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It looks like all the ship designs are the same, but I see at least two different styles of nacelles; one type is more round and the other type is more angular. I suppose that’s a cop-out way of making multiple ship classes. They also seem to have the Kelvinverse glowing end caps. I’m just glad they didn’t show those godawful Luna and Odyssey classes.
Yeah, they’re pretty generic, but they’re good enough for me; they satisfy my ship porn need until DSC season 3 and Lower Decks. And this show was not about Starfleet, so I get it. Cheap 2399 uniforms and cheap 2399 ships. I would have preferred just one mega-badass ship like a new design for the Enterprise-F instead of a ‘squadron’ of 200 small nondescript ships sharing 95% the same design. But there’s always next season. From what I understand, the VFX were done at the last minute, so if they plan on having more ships for next season, they will have more time for R&D.
I just wish they had names and registry numbers, but I suppose if you’re going to just show multiple copies of the same ship, that would be redundant.
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You're right! There are two different types of nacelles, although the actual ship looks the same.
- One set has more angular nacelles, sloping out and up (basically at the same ange as the pylons). Like this: \ / You can spot them from behind because the glowing bit at the rear is rectangular. They also appear to have a sizeable glowing blue side cutout on top, which the other version doesn't. It's possible - but hard to confirm - that the rear 'hump' (where the saucer tapers back onto the secondary hull) runs further back along the secondary hull than on the second type, where it may bottom out sooner. - The other is more curvy and bulbous, and slopes up and in like this: / \ The rear glowing bit is lozenge-shaped (a rectangle with semicircular ends). I think they have a glowing blue cutout section but it's smaller and further back on the inner-facing surface of the nacelle, nothing on the outer surface.
... and if you can identify which of these two types the USS Zheng He is then you're doing better than I am!
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There’s a similarity to be sure. But with much of Eaves’s typical over-the-top detailing toned down (in fact, both classes seen look strangely like Battlestars with their ribbed-for-our-displeasure detailing).
If they do reveal class names I’ll bet neither has an overtly US-based name. I do wonder what THAT is all about; he didn’t use to be this, well, jingoistic (for want of a better word).
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Kind of makes sense. Look at the Navy. There's usually only one main class of destroyers or cruisers. For example there's 67 Arleigh Burke-class destroyers so if they all showed it would be a bunch of identical looking ships too.
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That's only because they're going for that "one-stop shopping" shit again. Remember 40 years ago when everything was supposed to be based on the Spruance hull?
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But these were Starfleet's most powerful vessels. And they all appeared in the same spot at the same time.
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... which, if you wanted to infer from that, might suggest that Starfleet now has a large fleet of warships held in reserve solely to deploy in situations such as this. Which, if you correlate it with other Starfleet opinions and attitudes we've seen in PIC, means that the organisation isn't even pretending to be a solely research & exploration entity now, but has become overly militarised.
That Riker could just turn up and get command of not just a ship but the whole fleet kinda confirms that. Most of those ships, which don't look to be much larger if at all than, say, an Intrepid-class, probably have little more than skeleton crews onboard, with standing senior officers who're Lt. Commanders at best.
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We could be reading too much into it, based on indications that DSC s3 is going to be Star Trek: Andromeda. And one would like to think there has to be more to it than that, otherwise what is PIC s2 going to be then? Star Trek: Starfleet Are Still Assholes But Guinan's In This One?
quote:Originally posted by Lee: ... which, if you wanted to infer from that, might suggest that Starfleet now has a large fleet of warships held in reserve solely to deploy in situations such as this. Which, if you correlate it with other Starfleet opinions and attitudes we've seen in PIC, means that the organisation isn't even pretending to be a solely research & exploration entity now, but has become overly militarised.
That Riker could just turn up and get command of not just a ship but the whole fleet kinda confirms that. Most of those ships, which don't look to be much larger if at all than, say, an Intrepid-class, probably have little more than skeleton crews onboard, with standing senior officers who're Lt. Commanders at best.
That sounds unfortunately logical.
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