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You'd be surprised what can survive an explosion and it makes sense that the cockpit would be specifically designed to withstand a LOT of punishment. Still, it's a mystery how all those pieces of debris landed within walking distance of each other. I imagine it has something to do with the heavy raider we saw from Lee's POV, but we're still missing a vital piece of the puzzle.
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I remember at the time a few of us noted that in the shot where her Viper explodes they're quite careful not to actually show the cockpit go up in flames. It certainly looks like it's been completely destroyed in the wide shot, but as Reverend says, there's a suspicious heavy raider flying over head.
The idea that some Cylon faction abducted her and planted the evidence that she's the final fifth on Earth is probably one the least far fetched theories.
The only other thing to consider is that when Kara came back from the dead she remembered going to Earth, but couldn't remember how she returned. That's got some added significance now, hasn't it?
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Small point, but does it strike anyone else as a little bit of a coincidence that the Earth centurions just happened to be of a remarkably similar design as those (supposedly) designed and developed 2000 years later on a separate planet, half way across the galaxy?
Perhaps it's based off some ancient cultural armour design from the time of Kobol or another hint and the collective unconscious, cycle of time theme?
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I'm wondering if there's not some time travel thing going on with Kara. She may not have been regenerated. She may just be fated at some point in the future to go back in time and blow up. Which, of course, doesn't explain the absolutely new Viper she's flying around.
From the last scene, it looked like Ellen and Saul were aware of something going on with resurrection technology. "We'll be reborn." Whatever brought them back may have also brought Starbuck back. And may also bring Dee back, come to think of it. Maybe everyone who dies around Earth is reborn somewhere else. Of course, the destruction of the resurrection hub might change that, if it was tied in. Oooh, or maybe there have to be twelve, for some reason, and Ellen's death meant Starbuck took her place. Whatever place that might have been.
So I guess another question is, were these five the only survivors? Or are there others elsewhere, repeating this cycle in other places in the galaxy? And are we sure the Cylons are the artificial ones? Maybe what the colonials call Cylons are actually natural humans (like you and me), and the colonials themselves are the constructs.
And then there's the question, are we really convinced this is Earth?
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RDM says it really, really is Earth and that Ellen really, really is the fifth Cylon, but then he also said that Starbuck really, really was dead for good.
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Well, if that's Starbuck in the crashed Viper, and the one running around now is some sort of clone or Cylon replacement or whatever, I guess he might technically have been telling the truth.
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Has it ever been properly established that the skinjobs are in any way mechanical? I can only think of the glowing spine in the miniseries, but surely we've never actually seen Data-like blinking lights under their skin.. and they seem to have human-like skeletons. Is there anything against them being 99.99% organic, even with the colonials calling them machines?
I think the design of the Cylon centurions could maybe relate to some ancient 'racial memory', probably related to Kobol. Maybe its some kind of iconic armor worn by the Cylon God/Jealous God.
Or maybe the 'colonial Cylons' were actually designed by the skinjob Cylons when they lived among the humans, before they were properly activated.
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Yes, all this time they've been trying to figure out a way to identify skin jobs, but within a day or two of landing on this planet, they can tell that all its former inhabitants were skin jobs? It doesn't really seem likely, does it? Or maybe it's a method that only works on dead bodies, which would require them to kill someone just to prove they're not a Cylon.
The Fleet's Cylon detector agent at work, yesterday
How embarrassing. In the thread for "Escape Velocity" I mentioned how I'd decided the Fynol Cylon wasn't Ellen after all. I must be becoming really gullible in my old age, this episode had me convinced it would turn out to be Dee, so I was rather surprised at how things turned out. I fell for all their tricks. Curse you, Moore!
(oh, and is it just me, or is the time on Flare's server 9 minutes slow?)
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I vaguely remember the idea being they could always identify a Cylon corpse, back even from the miniseries. The catch was identifying the live ones.
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Cylon skinjobs have the ability to interface with Colonial technology via slitting their wrists and sticking the fiber optic cables in the wounds. While this may not be specifically mechanical it definitely isn't something organic humans or animals can do.
Add to this their superior strength and you get some compelling evidence for identifiable differences at least at the cellular level.
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They can also "project" environments and people in their minds like a built-in holodeck. Also in the latest webisodes, they appear to be adept at calculating their position in the galaxy by looking at the stars. As far as emotions go, they are very much like humans.
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And they also have the ability to upload their consciousness upon death to a resurrection ship or resurrection hub. There must be some kind of transmitter technology inside them.
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