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Is anyone else wondering at the meaning of the finale's title? I can't help but think back to something the first hybrid said in Razor. "Not an end, but a beginning."
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On January 14th, in my post on "A Disquiet Follows My Soul", I wrote:
Lastly: I went back and watched the final 4.0 episode’s end. That planet doesn’t necessarily look like our Earth, or at least, you can’t tell – it’s green ,it’s blue, there are clouds, but I couldn’t make out any continent that I would point to and say “Oh, that’s Asia!” or “That’s Africa!” I think there’s some misdirection going on here, and while the planet found may indeed be their Earth, there’s nothing to stop the Colonials from finding another habitable world nearby, one with recognizable continents, and christening it Earth: our Earth.
* I did quite like that the "Third Party" will remain a mystery. It seems likely that the Lords of Kobol and God are really just inadequate descriptions of whatever force is behind the "Angels", perhaps influenced by occurences in earlier 'cycles'.
* The best I can do is.. Kara Thrace really died, and what came back was a different kind of Angel than the Head-characters.
* "All Along The Watchtower" seems like a general 'unlocking' code. First, it activated the Final Five, then it activated Kara's memories and the location of Earth stored in her?
* That "150,000 years later" was pretty mindblowing, although somewhat expected. The implication seemed to be that it was our Earth, with Jimi Hendrix performing the next incarnation of the song. I couldn't quite figure out if those were the original Caprica and Baltar, or the Angels.
* So it seems "Daniel" was nothing more than just a way to explain the discrepancy in Cylon numbering, and he really was just destroyed. Oh well, not everything needs to be mysterious, I guess.
* Holy frak, it seems they saved the majority of the VFX budget for this episode. Old and new Cylons fighting against (and alongside!) Colonials, that was just cool.
* What happens to Earth we saw in the last scenes? Cylons will be created again, they will revolt, leave the planet, followed in time by the rest of the Earthlings, setlling new colonies and being guided by the Angels to create new prophecies.
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Wow. Years ago I said that this series would flake out and become crap. Now all I can say from reading these posts is: "I told you so!"
Hundreds of hours of my life: saved by not watching this series!
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quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: On January 14th, in my post on "A Disquiet Follows My Soul", I wrote:
Lastly: I went back and watched the final 4.0 episode’s end. That planet doesn’t necessarily look like our Earth, or at least, you can’t tell – it’s green ,it’s blue, there are clouds, but I couldn’t make out any continent that I would point to and say “Oh, that’s Asia!” or “That’s Africa!” I think there’s some misdirection going on here, and while the planet found may indeed be their Earth, there’s nothing to stop the Colonials from finding another habitable world nearby, one with recognizable continents, and christening it Earth: our Earth.
Looks like I guessed right.
Well remember I pointed out that there was no moon orbiting "Earth" and for that I was suspicious of it being our Earth. So maybe I deserve a cookie crumb?
Overall I did enjoy the ending. The part with new Earth was a bit of a stretch, but I figured they would eventually tie in our world somehow. I suppose the ending is left open. If your an optimist, perhaps humans don't end up getting destroyed by their AI creations. If your pessimist, then the cycle begins again. Finally, that scene with Tory and the Chief, priceless.
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Actually, I found it quite enjoyable. Although 4.5 seemed to run headfirst into a "brick wall of exposition" and had some trouble getting started back up again, I thought season 4.0 and the first part of 4.5 was fantastic, and far more enjoyable than the bulk of season 3.
Harry:
I think those were the Angels. You can tell because Angel Baltar's hair is really kind of weird. And also because the real Baltar isn't immortal.
quote:Originally posted by Jason Abbadon: Wow. Years ago I said that this series would flake out and become crap. Now all I can say from reading these posts is: "I told you so!"
Pfft. Hardly. The finale may not have been absolutely, completely, 100% perfect... but what show is? Regardless of the handful of unanswered questions, the finale was still excellent.
I just still need to wrap my brain around some of these revelations...
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One thing I found ironic is that the series implied that there was no alien life other than the humans, and it turns out that the Colonials were aliens after all.
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Except ... it didn't. There's a line in there about the people on Earth are humans, and Lee and Bill talk about how weird it is that human evolved there, as well.
Of course, all "modern" humans are a combination of human/cylon.
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It was alright, not quite what I expected, and the last 20 minutes were kind of tame.
I knew a woman that parked her car like they parked the G.
I'd say that those two were the 'angels', the same attire as when they talked to C6 and Baltar on the G.
All in all, it was okay.
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quote:Except ... it didn't. There's a line in there about the people on Earth are humans, and Lee and Bill talk about how weird it is that human evolved there, as well.
Oh, yes, I understand that. What I'm saying is that the Colonials never evolved on our Earth, hence they are extraterrestrials.
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So what about the final 5 ... well 3? How long does a Cylon live? I know they were at least 2000 years old. Can a Cylon live for 150,000 years?
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But that 2000 years was a lot shorter for them due to relativistic effects of their STL travel.
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