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The quality isn't great, and it's upside down, but what about this?
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You want him to include the Tripod logo? Not exactly a ship....
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quote:Originally posted by Austin Powers: I have got the DVDs, and I am glad that they used the original model shots instead of the rubbishy CGI from the so-called "special edition".
Unfortunately I have no way to capture images from DVDs (no PC with DVD drive, sorry!)
They did!!!!! Good - I hated the CGI'd version of RD.
Do they bring back that dark music from the first two seasons!?!
I loved that music - I can't find an mp3 of it anywhere.
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I must admit I have never seen an episode of the remastered edition. Just parts of the opening credits. I have some old videos of season two, taped in the UK in the early nineties and the music on them is the same as on the DVDs of season one and two.
So I guess, yes, the soundtrack is the original too.
On the DVDs there's also a special feature called audio cues, where you can listen to all the music separately. Perhaps one can make an mp3 from those somehow.
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I don't think the actual in-episode music was changed.
The original version had two theme tunes. A dark, brooding, Also Sprach Zarathusa for series 1 and 2, and a sexed up rock version for the others. The remastered ones mixed them together. It was interesting, to be fair. And the pull back from Lister to the entire ship was far superior.
Still, the new RD was a bit meh. Where was all that rock along the bottom of the ship? How comes the brand new model looked less massive than the original? And how comes, when Dr Who was filled with really, really shit effects, Red Dwarf was able to do really nice ship shots? Eh?
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And so I'm looking for help from the best group of sci-fi enthusiasts with a penchant for things technological and pertaining to starships that I know. Credit will be given on the page that links to the image once it goes online.
I have my BDO lists, which I have now seperated into 2 mile long ships and those between 1-2 miles. I looked at yoru lists and some of the lengths to not add up to some of the info I have found. For example, the super star destroyer is waaaay too big. But regardless, since there are always doubts, I'm willing to entertain almsot any specualtion. Here I include only the 2 mile PLUS list, though I haven't fixed it in awhile. There may be a few inconsistencies.
SIZE AND MATTER DOES MATTER!!
The largest intelligence made objects ever seen in the history of live action visual fiction. Only contiguous objects 1 mile and larger make the cut.
Some notes. This list is by no means comprehensive and I would welcome anything I have missed. Many of the ship sizes are guesses of course, since most SF shows do not have manuals or info like we have become used to with ST, B5 and SW. I'm probably missing some artificial worlds, bases, or the like from Blake's 7, Dr Who, Space 1999, Farscape or something. If you have official info to correct me let me know.
1. V'Ger-STTMP: Plain and simple. By far the largest megastructure ever seen in history..all 82 astronomical units of it.
2. Dyson Sphere-STNG: 200 million kilometers diameter sphere of carbon-neutronium massiveness. The surface area of millions of planets.
3. The Planet of Sentient Machines-STTMP: Estimate: Size of Earth or MUCH larger. 8,000 miles plus in diameter.
17. Dominion Construction Yard Base Complex-DS9- 25 miles across?
18. Alien City Destroyers-Independence Day- 25 miles.
19. Vorlon Planet Killer-B5. 12.5 miles
20. Delphic Expanse Artificial "moon"-ENTERPRISE-10.6 miles
21. "The Shadow Planetkiller is not really a ship per se, its works more as pure weapon. It is composed of a cloud of particles (presumably nano-technology) and huge missiles. When attacking a planet, the cloud surrounds it, devouring the atmosphere and everything in it, while thousands and thousands of missiles are lauched towards the surface." Planetkiller 10 miles?
21. Timelord ship from "Trial of a Timelord-Dr Who. 10 miles
22. Son'a Science ship/collector-ST:Insurrection. 10 miles
23. Ice City ship Delos-Dr Who. 10 miles
24. Borg Cube and Tactical Cube-STNG, Voyager.6-8 miles
25. Lexx-Lexx:The Dark Zone. 10km Long (6.2miles)
26. Doomsday Machine Planet Killer-TOS. 5-10 miles
27. Alien Solar Sailer-New Outer Limits. 5-10+ miles high.
28. Stargate-B5- .62 to 6.2 mile sections
29. Wormhole Transit System Element-Contact. 5+ miles
37. Lunar Ring Space Station-Starship Troopers. 5 miles tall
38. Guild Highliners-Dune. 3-5 miles long.
39. First Ones Ships-B5- Appear to vary 1-5 miles in diameter.
40. Red Dwarf-Red Dwarf-4 miles long. 2600 floors
41. Alien Cruiser-B5-4 Miles
42. Earthforce Explorer Class ship-B5. 3.79 miles
43. Factory Ship-Hypernauts- 3+ miles.
44. Visitors Saucers-V mini-series. 3 miles in diameter.
45. Epsilon 9 station-STTMP. 3 miles long.
46. Hypergate-Lost in Space. 2-5 miles?
47. Husnock Ship-STNG. 1-3 miles
48. Vampire Lifeforce Collector-Lifeforce. 2 miles in length.
49. Companion ship. Earth: Final Conflict. 2 miles?
50. Whale Probe. STIV. 2+ miles?
51. Krenim Weapon Ship-Voyager. 2+ miles?
52. Drakh Cruiser- B5- 2.1 miles
53. Orbital Space Station. Aliens. 2 miles?
54. Alien Saucer-Seaquest. About 2 miles
55. Space Dock-STIII. 2-3 miles high.
56. Utopia Planitia Main Base-Voyager- 2 miles or more
57. Orbital Space Complex. Event Horizon. 2 miles wide?
55. Gadmeer Terraformor-Stargate SG1-2 miles wide
56. SPACE STATION, GOA'ULD-2 miles
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Isn't V'Ger + cloud now officially "only" 2 aus in diameter?
Out of curiousity, where'd you get the 4 miles for Red Dwarf figure from? I think it's said in one of the novels, but I'm not 100% certain.
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quote:Originally posted by PsyLiam: Isn't V'Ger + cloud now officially "only" 2 aus in diameter?
Out of curiousity, where'd you get the 4 miles for Red Dwarf figure from? I think it's said in one of the novels, but I'm not 100% certain.
Not that I know of, is a new size referred to in the DE for V'er?
I forget exactly where I got the RD info, but it was official and very specific. Maybe I can find it again..
BTW does anyone on here KNOW HOW BIG THE Magog Worldship is?? Does anyone else here realize that this is Andromeda's salute to the works of Larry Niven?
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Actually, I believe that V'ger's measurement of 82? AU's in diameter was for the forcecloud surrounding the ship not the ship itself. As for the V'ger ship, I haven't seen any specs but my guess would be in the 175-200 mile range based on the flyby of Enterprise.
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I don't KNOW HOW BIG THE worldship is, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out if you assume that the things are planets of near-earth size, within a reasonable range. It may be the single largest artificial structure in sci-fi of which I am aware. And how is it related to Niven? He didn't invent the concept of sun-encircling structures.
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quote:Originally posted by WizArtist: Actually, I believe that V'ger's measurement of 82? AU's in diameter was for the forcecloud surrounding the ship not the ship itself. As for the V'ger ship, I haven't seen any specs but my guess would be in the 175-200 mile range based on the flyby of Enterprise.
Its true, the ship itself is only 60 miles long, but the powerfield has always been an intrinsic part of the V'Ger probe to my mind. Enteprise traveled through miles of fields that seemed to be a part of the design, either to confuse or protect outsiders.
quote:Originally posted by Omega: I don't KNOW HOW BIG THE worldship is, but it shouldn't be too hard to figure out if you assume that the things are planets of near-earth size, within a reasonable range. It may be the single largest artificial structure in sci-fi of which I am aware. And how is it related to Niven? He didn't invent the concept of sun-encircling structures.
Well, its hard to say..20 worlds as opposed to the materials of millions of worlds it took to build the Dyson Shpere...I'd still say the Dyson sphere is bigger. Based on the few photos images of the Magog Worldship, I'd estimate it to be about 5-6 of the larger worlds in diameter across. If they're 10,000 miles then that might be about 60,000 miles. If they're larger, maybe its in the 100,000 mile range, still well short of the Dyson SPhere.
There are other ringworlds/dyson spheres in SF, but the closest analog I have seen to the Magog ship is the Puppeteer worldship.
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