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I went and tried to do this last night.. i made a chart with Mega-Maid, the Eagle-5 Winnebago the NSEA Protector, and Red Dwarf, but the size differences were too great for it to work.. it was pretty funny having to assign governments to the
Spaceball-1 (Mega Maid configuration) approx. 6,000 km The Planet Spaceballs
Eagle-5 Winnebago 8 meters owned by Lone Starr
N.S.E.A. Protector, NTE-3120 365.4 meters National Space Exploration Agency (?)
BTW, in my research i found that the 'NTE' in NTE-3120 stands for 'Not The Enterprise'
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The First Federation's Fesarius The Whale Probe The Remmler Array The Epsilon 9 station Drydock The Borg Transwarp Hub The Borg 'village' from Dark Frontier The Caretaker's Array
B5:
The Vorlon Planet-Killer The Shadow Cloud The Minbari Cruiser The Centauri Cruiser
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Topher: What's that Elani ship from? I don't recognize the reference. (Also, given the size, that image isn't really detailed enough. Sorry.)
Captain Mike: If I can find a good image of Spaceball One and/or Mega Maid, they're definitely going in!
BTW, can you give me a reference for the NSEA Protector's length? I got something around 450 meters...
Andrew: I've already added the Remmler Array, too. Epsilon IX will go in if I can find a good size reference, and most of the others assuming I can find good images. Exceptions: the Whale Probe is too big -- remember that the little ball/extension was about the size of the Spacedock -- and the Drydocks are too small to show up properly, since they're mainly thin lines.
I actually tried a test image of the Vorlon planet killer, but that thing is 45 km long minimum -- too big, especially because the image I found got too grainy when blown up that big.
The Minbari and Centauri cruisers are already in also. The Shadow death cloud won't be in because it's undefined shape, and literally the size of a planet.
General note: I'm probably going to make a little inset to use for some of the smaller ships later on. But right now, anything that's smaller than about 200 meters ends up being just a unidentifiable smudge on the screen. Example in my preliminary chart: the USS Discovery from "2001" really IS there!
Addendum: I really must learn to try to use more specific search parameters. A search of the term "mega maid" (with quotes) in OS X's Sherlock engine returned THIS link among the top five!
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there is only one image that comes up on google image search.. type 'mega maid' i rotated it and it scaled up ok when i adjusted to bright/contrast.. none of it in the regular configuration. the size is based on the fact that it straddled a damn planet. BTW, if you have SafeSearch toggled to 'off' you should see some of the mega maid pics I saw...
a scale reference Cinefex Magazine states that the 8 foot effect model of the NSEA Protector was 1:200 scale, which would make the "Real" Protector about 1600 feet long. this doesnt jibe with the size of the bridge module compared to cars in the convention parking lot, unless it had more decks in it than just the bridge. and the shuttlebay was much too large for a ship that size. but whose shuttle bay isnt these days? possibly that was a tip of the hat to Voyager and DS9
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Perhaps you should split the thing into two charts with different scales, and use, say, the Federation starbase as the dividing point? Have it on both as a point of comparison. Have the uber-structures like the Death Star(s) and the MegaMaid on one, and the normal ships on the other.
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Hey, I like that idea of using one large structure as the benchmark between the two! I'll look into that... Thanks!
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Hey I just wanted to say, MM, that this is really cool. I very much look forward to seeing the finished product. I do like the idea of having a separate structures chart, but it's very cool to see them all together. Anyway, excellent work, sir...
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Wraith: I didn't know you were into Honor Harrington? Thanks for the link, I tracked down the whole gallery.
Yeah; started reading after that thread, earlier this year. Took me a little while to get hold of 'em all though; can't wait for War of Honor! Also found Honor-Harrington.com if you're interested.
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quote:the Husnock ship was a bit bigger than the E-D IIRC.
Yeah... by about eight times.
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I agree that you should separate the thing into two (or more) charts.
I would suggest the following categories:
1. Ships (capable of traversing space moving under their own power)
2. Structures (immobile, or mobile only with thrusters or tugs)
and possibly subdivide 2, to create category 3
3. Planetary and larger objects (Death Stars, Dyson Spheres, Unicron...) Perhaps the smallest Death Star would be your benchmark, then again, it was apparently capable of travelling through space...
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