quote:Brett Leonard promises to ignore the crap continuity in HIGHLANDER 2, and will reveal the Highlanders to be the result of a futuristic genetic experiment gone wrong and sent back in time to kill the woman who will give birth to the scientist who made them.
GAG!
Mark, I thought you said sci-fi was doing a mini-series. Not anymore?
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Ugh - replacing one crap continuity with another? >.<;;
Last I heard, yes - there was another miniseries proposed for Sci-Fi. Reports have been sketchy ever since though, and this wouldn't be the first time the whole thing was abandonned, resurrected, and completely changed.
Mabye Adrian Paul will run for public office on a slogan of "There can be only one".
Holy shit: if they made an all drag-queen-sock-puppett version of the Highlander cartoon, it couldn't possiby sound any worse.
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When it says "...will reveal the Highlanders to be the result of a...", does it mean "..will reveal the *Immortals* to be..." Because if he does, the way he says it sounds like how my mom would describe the plot. If he actually just means the clan of McCleods that seem to have an abnormal amount of Immortals in their bloodline, then that's just an even dumber plotline.
Whatever happened to the brilliant backstory from the first movie. They left it largely open to interpretation, but the idea was that the Immortals were just an aspect of nature, and when the last One finally emerged, he or she would possess the collective knowledge of all humanity, from every race, in every age of the Earth. Now that was good. Space men from the future and genetic experiments... pure shite.
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The producers of the original movie have wanted to explain the "true" origin of the Immortals for some time. During the TV series DVD releases, they hint at Immortals possibly being created at a mystical place called "The Source", which was a (previous?) plot of the next movie. I think that this report might be fake, and whoever made it up knows to rile the fans.
Besides, it's just the plot of "Terminator". Terminator Highlander? Termilander?
quote:Originally posted by Mark Nguyen: Besides, it's just the plot of "Terminator". Terminator Highlander? Termilander?
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It is?
The TV series ran dry on ideas about halfway through: they got all "goofy-mystical" with that crystal trinket Methose needed to cure his all-too-mortal girlfriend and then "turned to the darkside" in a Darth vader-esque 80 parter.....it got BAD.
The most intresting characters are those with mysterious origins- even to themselves!
Look at Wolverine: any origin they come up with lessens the character because 99% of all fans have a half-idea of what that origin should be and are always let down by the "official version".
In conclusion: first Highlander movie- VERY good. All subsequent sequels- so embarrasingly bad and determental to the first movie, that I have my Highlander DVD hidden far behind even the most geeky Trek moments. Like, waaaaay behind Nemesis.... ...less visible to guests than porn- that's how bad the Highlander movie was hurt by it's sequels.
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I'm a great fan of Highlander, and stuck with it right to the end - however, I will admit that the series really ran out of ideas in the fifth season, and the sixth held no real gems for me. The fifth had a great two-parter involving Methos' past, and the fourth had both "Double Eagle" and "Till Death", hands-down the best of the comedy episodes of the show. Hghlander had slightly more than its share of stinkers in the first three seasons IMO. "The Zone", anyone?
The "Raven" spinoff series likewise didn't do anything for me until the last few episodes when they were getting the hang of it, though unfortunately it was too late.
The unknown mysticism thing was what endeared the series for me too, though I liked "Methuselah's Gift" a lot for its drama, and not the glowey Immortality ball (which they said straight out was NOT the secret of their Immortality - it was something else entirely). Didn't like the movies after the first, save for "Endgame", which I thought captured the series feel rather well. The movie never matched the early draft script I read, though the "workprint" that was released with the DVD comes closer.
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I thought Endgame went well with the series too, I just didn't think they pulled the movie off very well. The end, with the two McCleods dueling and the flashback scenes were just all too done to death.
Bringing back Conner's secretary was kind of cool though, for the 5 seconds she lasted.
I think it would've worked better to see the McCleods team up against the bad guy in direct violation of The Rules. That, to me, would have had more possibility than one of them killing the other to get their Quickening.
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If they were desperate enough to break the rules, they'd have just bought a pair of shotguns. No, their overly Boy Scoutish nature kept them to the rules. OTOH, Jacob Kell, at least in one iteration of the script, went and killed everyone in the Sanctuary, which was ON HOLY GROUND. "Fortunately", they explained it away that the Sanctuary was on a mockup of holy ground that the Watchers had put together in the hopes that it would fool any Immortals. Dunno why this centuries-old facility was in the Eastern US, though.
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Ummm... why would they go to the trouble of mocking up Holy ground. Why not just actually build it on Holy ground. You'd think that Immortals would be able to sense actual Holy ground if they're expected not to fight on it.
But what difference does it make? Kell didn't care about the Rules anyway.
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That was the point - the producers worked Kell's "I don't care" attitude into the Sanctuary, but then later backtracked when lots of people got really angry that Kell would break the rules like that.
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Why are churches off-limits for immortals? Ramirez was born a thousand years before Christ, does that mean he could just go nuts on the competition in his "youth"? And what happens if they fight on holy ground? Do their swords melt? Does an angel rip off the roof and smite both the combatants? It must be something special if it kept even the Kurgan in check.
Lol@Ramirez btw, he must've been forced to start off with bronze swords, the poor guy. Egyptian ones, at that, like those corny "Scorpion King" thingies that are shaped like hacksaws.
*SPLAAASH* "Damn ya cheap tricks, Moses! Ye 'aven't seen the last o' me! -Blech, now it'll take forever to cross this thing."
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Not just churches, holy ground in general. So even a grove of trees containing a shrine to the great penis-shaped-rock God, Ug, would qualify. And I don't think there was meant to be anything special about the rule, just that everyone at one time or another needs somewhere they know they'll be safe, even the Kurgan. The only way he'd consider facing Connor was on his own terms, either in a church where he knew he was safe, or on a killing-ground of his own choosing with a hostage just in case.
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THAT'S how they got so powerful! Some newbie immortal, being chased by the Kurgan or other foe, ran for cover into one of their churches and never got out, they saw the chance and strapped an e-meter on him, siphoning his pauer like so much Farpoint.
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