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I think I can sum up this episode by saying that I thought it was the best finale we could have had to this season given how generally bad the season was.
Getting Renee onto the Europa mission seems kinda rushed, like the episode just wanted to get it out of the way. I don't see any reason why Tallinn had to die, actually. Just say that particular neurotoxin has no effect on Romulans. And the backup drones were countered way too easily.
Afterwards, Kore remotely deletes all of Soong's data. After a few moments, Soong pulls out a hardcopy file... Project KHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN! Saw that coming a mile away. And it looks like both PIC and SNW are going with the DS9 Eugenics War retcon of being in the 21st Century.
Kore also receives a message requesting an in-person meeting. She arrives to find... Wesley Crusher. No joke. And Crusher and his fellow Travelers are the mysterious patrons of Gary Seven and Tallinn. I admit... I kinda squeed at this. Part of me feels like I should be ashamed of that, but it's a small part.
Picard, having worked through his mother issues, leaves the skeleton key where his younger self will find it to let his mother out, knowing that it must happen for him to be the man he is now. Q and Picard have a conversation where Q admits he just wanted to help Picard overcome his issues so that he wouldn't have to die alone like him. Did the entire Continuum already die? What about Junior? I'd think he'd be pretty young compared to all the other Q?
Everyone gathers so Q can send them back home, but Rios predictably decides to stay in the past with Teresa and Ricardo. Q notes that he might be able to do something with the energy saved by that. Picard also gave Q a parting hug. I admit I shed a few tears at that. While Q has certainly been a thorn in Picard's side over the years, it's good to see Picard admit that Q has also been a friend.
Everybody pops back onto the Stargazer where Picard cancels the auto-destruct. To the surprise of no-one, the Borg Queen reveals herself to be Jurati. As for why Jurati is here, there's some sort of Negative Space Wedgie forming that's gonna do a lot of damage unless the Borg star (Star? Is that what we're calling it? I legit don't know.) synchronizes the shields of the fleet to contain the blast. The plan works, and the day is saved... kinda.
The Negative Space Wedgie stabilizes into some kind of transwarp conduit, but not even the Borg know who made it. Jurati and her Borg intend to keep watch over it.
25th Century Guinan fills Picard in on what happened to Rios afterwards, and it looks like Picard is now willing to start a relationship with Laris.
The end.
I'm sure I'll eventually get to my thoughts on the season as a whole. Come to think of that, I still need to do that for the last season of Disco too.
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The Crusher cameo was well done. I don't agree with the decision to pair Travelers & Supervisors (I hate "tidied ends" like that), but it was a good scene. So was Q's last stand. Beyond that, though...
This was all for nothing. So Rios stays behind–telegraphed. Elnor is alive–telegraphed. Jurati is the Queen we saw–telegraphed...but does that mean all the Borg are touchy-feely now? Why did there have to be some great space boojum at the end that appeared from nowhere to really do nothing? The Khan folder...that was lame & stupid. His name was Noonien, he took the title "khan". It wasn't a fucking project. That's shitty writing.
It's all been shitty writing, honestly.
....I never thought I'd ever say this, but after all this, & after watch the SNW premiere....I think I might just drop any new stuff altogether. None of this is good. None of it is enjoyable. It's something different that lacks what OG Trek had. I think it's all the fucked-up retconning & destruction of previous worldbuilding. I just....I don't want to do this anymore.
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I can live with the retcon of the Eugenics Wars, although personally I'd find an easier retcon being that when Khan gave the year the Botany Bay left as 1996 he was just using the Indian Civil Calendar instead of the Gregorian. 1996 there would equate to 2074, although that would place it after World War III of course. Interestingly the retcon does agree better with Jonathan Archer's great-grandfather fighting in the war, assuming a generation every 25-years...so there's that. My main gripe there is that it completely invalidates Greg Cox's Khan novels, which while obviously non-canon anyway are my favourite Trek novels so would have prefered to keep them in my head canon. Oh well.
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Well, I didn't expect it but I enjoyed the finale. I really liked the scenes with Picard and Q. So all of it was supposed to 1) heal Picard's heart and 2) make a Borg/Federation alliance against a new enemy possible? Right? Right?
I also liked the appearance of Wesley but the Traveler/Supervisor-connection felt shoehorned to me.
With the Eugenics Wars merged with WWIII, does that mean that Adam Soong is the creator of Khan?
For Season 3 I predict Captain Seven in command of USS Stargazer.
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Put Seven in a Starfleet uniform at the end, you cowards! Hopefully they’ve saved that for s3 because that line of dialogue from a week or two back was fucking stupid and needs to be retconned out of existence. Granted retconning usually happens years, decades, seasons, whole shows later not just one or two episodes, but hey, life moves fast these days!
quote:Originally posted by Malnurtured Snay: There's a 1996 date on the Khan file, so maybe Soong just has some of Khan's genetics somewhere?
I hadn't noticed that...damn my dodgy eyes. Perhaps the Khan Project is what was behind the cold-storage of Augment embryos that Arik Soong worked at/raided in the Augment three-parter.
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So are there two types of Borg now? “Good” Juratiborg, that started with the Confederation time line Borg Queen, and “Bad” regular Borg that we all know and love, that we saw throughout TNG and VOY?
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Yeah, if there are two types of Borg then where have the Happy Fun Collective been all this time?
And, did I hear right? Did the Modern Old Guinan say that Past Hot Guinan knew who Picard was all the time but couldn’t admit it because Protecting The Timeline?
And, Q didn’t want Picard to die alone so concocted a whole other timeline that had nothing to do with JLP’s major malfunction, and which compelled him to travel back in time hundreds of years BEFORE the event that screwed him up to force him to confront something that wouldn’t happen (to him) for centuries?
And, the great existential threat which forced the Happy Fun Collective to come out of the woodwork was… a spatial anomaly a few kilometres across that spat shit out in one direction only and was easily contained by a few starships merging their shields? And leaves a mysterious transwarp conduit which you just know is going to issue forth countless Nameless Things From Beyond Space sooner or later but that’s fine, we’ll leave the HFC to keep an eye on it even though five minutes ago Starfleet was applying a VERY variable xB recruitment policy?
And about that - so also within five minutes of finding that Starfleet Security are (quote) ass-deep in Romulans, they’re letting others join Starfleet?
And, does Wil Wheaton even remember how to act? He was basically playing himself. He could have added a bit of gravitas, you know?
quote:Originally posted by Lee: Yeah, if there are two types of Borg then where have the Happy Fun Collective been all this time?
Over there. *Points in random direction*
Serious answer? Probably staying out of the Federation's way in order to preserve the predestination paradox. It's a big galaxy. They only show themselves at this point because Jurati knows they do from the first time around.
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And, did I hear right? Did the Modern Old Guinan say that Past Hot Guinan knew who Picard was all the time but couldn’t admit it because Protecting The Timeline?
I think it's the other way around. Old Guinan couldn't tell Picard about everything when he went to go see her back in the season premiere because he hadn't experienced it yet.
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And, Q didn’t want Picard to die alone so concocted a whole other timeline that had nothing to do with JLP’s major malfunction, and which compelled him to travel back in time hundreds of years BEFORE the event that screwed him up to force him to confront something that wouldn’t happen (to him) for centuries?
Yup.
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And, the great existential threat which forced the Happy Fun Collective to come out of the woodwork was… a spatial anomaly a few kilometres across that spat shit out in one direction only and was easily contained by a few starships merging their shields? And leaves a mysterious transwarp conduit which you just know is going to issue forth countless Nameless Things From Beyond Space sooner or later but that’s fine, we’ll leave the HFC to keep an eye on it even though five minutes ago Starfleet was applying a VERY variable xB recruitment policy?
Also yup.
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And about that - so also within five minutes of finding that Starfleet Security are (quote) ass-deep in Romulans, they’re letting others join Starfleet?
Because we needed something for Elnor to do for five minutes until the writers could find an excuse to kill him off?
quote:Originally posted by Lee: And, does Wil Wheaton even remember how to act? He was basically playing himself. He could have added a bit of gravitas, you know?
Eh, I think his acting here was fine. His acting on every week's aftershow is truly terrifying, though. "So let's take a closer look at this week's truly awful episode that I will try (and utterly fail) to convince you was the best episode yet..."
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The following ships are missing from the fleet compared to episode 2x01
USS Eureka NCC-42023 Excelsior II class USS Pachacuti NCC-74181 Sovereign class USS Gilgamesh NCC-74669 Sovereign class USS Valkyrie NCC-74877 Sovereign class USS Venture NCC-75306 Sovereign class USS Arsinoe NCC-75307 Sovereign class
Instead we get 8 new ones:
USS Akira NCC-62497 Akira-class USS Firesword NCC-64280 Akira-class USS Ross NCC-76710 Ross-class USS Archer NCC-76725 Ross-class USS Luna NCC-80101 Luna-class USS Enkidu NCC-90205 Reliant-class USS Tiro NCC-90216 Reliant-class USS Christopher NCC-97936 Gagarin-class
Official registry of La Sirena is NAR-93131.
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So six ships drop out - damaged? - and eight more arrive. Either that or the timeline got changed slightly.
I mean, it’s all very nice, and Dave Blass seems a good sort and genuine Trek fan for whom this has been a labour of love, but I can’t help feeling sometimes like it’s the producers trolling us. “Oh, so you didn’t like the lack of variety of ships in season 1, eh? Not enough names or registries? Well, stick this in your pipe and smoke it!”
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