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The359
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Alright, this is a simple question. Why are all organizaions except for the Federation uniracial? I mean, look at a Klingon ship, and there is nothing but Klingons. Same for Romulans and Cardassions. If these groups were so big, why wouldn't there be multiple types of aliens that are part of their alliance? I mean, if the Federation has 150 member worlds, the Romulans and Klingons have to have at least 200+, and of those 200+, there have to be different aliens then just simple Klingons. The only group I have seen with diversity is the Dominion, but even there, we only see 3 of the races, though we know there are two others only mentioned in one episode. Now, I know that makeup plays a big thing in this, but in the Trek Universe, why is it like this?

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Welcome to the wonderful world of bad writing. At least we have the Son'a.

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The federation is an alliance of many different worlds, with many different species. The other empires (Cardassian, Klingon, Romulan) are not, they are comprised of only one species, from one planet, that has colonized many other planets. This is why there are only Klingons on Klingon ships, and so on. There may be other races that these empires have conquered (such as the Bajorans were conquered by the Cardassians), but I think that they would have their rights and freedoms and priveleges limited in some way, they certainly wouldn't be allowed to serve on military vessels.

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You know, this could have been a great explanation for why TOS Klingons look different from the TNG era Klingons - they weren't true Klingons! They were some other humanoid race conquered by the Klingons a long time ago, and that adopted the traditions and culture of the Klingon Empire until they were fully integrated. Alas, the appearances of Kor, Kang, and Koloth in both eras voids this theory. But you do have a good point; I'd love to see a little more diversity within each of the major powers (though I wonder if the Romulans might be too paranoid to let any other race exist under their power).

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Hmmm, in Trials and Tribbleations, Bashir asked Worf what happened to the Klingons after seeing a TOS Klingon, and Worf said that they don't talk about it. It could be anything.

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Back to the diveristy topic, I thing they simply just have racists attitude about allowing other "inferior" races to join thier "elite" forces.
The Federation practices equality, while the other three practice domaninance.

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OTOH, most of Starfleet is human anyway...

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I don't for sure that we've established that 'most' of Starfleet is human. We've certainly seen more humans but we also have references to all Vulcan ships and Starbases so there are probably all Bolian starbases closer to Bolarus. It just happens that most of our stories and action center around Human crews.

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MORE BOLIANS!

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Aethelwer
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Perhaps...although the regular starbases seem to be "human" starbases...

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I love the Bolians!! The next series should definitely have a regular Bolian character, forget more Klingons or Vulcans. Either a Bolian, Tellerite, or Andorian is my vote!

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Any race other than humans may do. BTW: Why are all human-looking people automatically supposed to be humans? There are a lot of races on different planets featured in TOS, TNG and also some in Voyager, that look exactly like humans.

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Well, the crews that we've seen have probably been all huamns because we could better realte to them because we are human audiences (mostly human, anyway).

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Baloo
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Regarding Klingon foreheads, a lot of interesting theories are exponded upon here:

http://www.sev.com.au/toonzone/sevtrek/klingon/theories.htm

The theory proffered by JStaik1043 seems the most plausible to me.

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My guess is that the various races that the Klingons, Romulans, Cardassians, etc. have conqured are not as infranchised (sp?) as the Federation cultures....

And, yeah, I do think we could stand a healthly dose of regular UFP alien characters in a Trek series. Even if it's a Bolian. :-)

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