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MinutiaeMan
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I'm afraid I can't resist this:

For all the supposed "historical accuracy" of the Dixon Hill program in tonight's rerun, even with the apparent expert and everyone else mooning over the damn program -- I couldn't resist pointing out some mistakes. For instance, when they're walking along the street you can see an poster with the NRA sign (the blue eagle) in the window of one of the shops. (The National Recovery Administration, not the National Rifle Association. [Razz] ) And yet then Picard picks up a newspaper whose headline reads "Hitler On the Move."

Problem: Hitler didn't start his aggressive foreign policy until 1938 or so, and the NRA was declared unconstitutional in 1935! Not to mention that Data later on says the program is set in 1941... by that point the Depression is long over.

Normally I wouldn't have mentioned something like this. But with Picard and the redshirt gushing over about the amazing accuracty, I really think it's kinda silly that a mistake like that was made. Whalen certainly wasn't a good historical expert. [Razz]

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And if you had today a re-creation of a scene from the year 1579, and there was a book on a shelf somewhere that wasn't written until 1582, do you think every expert on the Middle Ages who saw the re-creation would immediately be drawn to the book and say "This shouldn't be here!"?
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I suppose it would depend on the fame of the book and the specifity of the era.
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MinutiaeMan
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Not to mention the fact that I know next to nothing about that particular era, really.

My point was that the characters were gushing about historical accuracy, when it didn't entirely exist. Granted, it's a small error, but kinda important I'd think.

But then, I'm a History major. [Wink]

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I wonder who created the Dixon Hill milieu. The computer, based on the written words of the original author, and some online historical records? A dedicated holoartist? A computer or holoartist in consultation with a history expert (perhaps Whalen himself, in which case any mistakes made by him would naturally go unnoticed by him)?

We know the computer singlehandedly created Moriarty out of literary origins. We know Bashir's friend Felix carefully designed the character of Vic Fontaine. A group effort by the users themselves resulted in Sandrine's, the beach resort, and the forgettable Irish village. The different approaches would naturally lead to different levels of accuracy - and in case of the village (or Vic's in "Badda Bing"), the characters even remarked on the inaccuracies.

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It seems that, at this point, the idea of holo-artisans had not occured to the writers. The Roddenbury computer was supposed to be pretty much all knowing. There doesn't seem to be any hint that anyone other than the computer had anything to do with programming the simulation (based on the text of course).

That said... maybe the store that the poster was in was an antique store...

[Smile]

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Out of interest, what was the National Recovery Administration, and why was it deemed unconstitutional?

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holo-artists are going to be the nerds of the 24th century.

"Did you see the new 'Corbomite Containment' holo-arc.. please.. they forgot all of the timeship registries they used in the old series, and if you look closely you can see they didn't model new hand phasers.. they just reused the ones from the 'Vulcan Adventure' series, that was supposed to take place in the 36th century! I know that Cosmadyne Corporation has the rights to this series, but its pretty obvious that Bezman and Blagga have no respect for the continuity laid down by the creators.."

"On the plus side, I froze the program and walked around for a few hours, checked all of the displays on Level 28 of the Ice Compound on Hothooine for registry listings to add to our encyclopedia... I found some mistakes in the signage though on three of the closet doors and interiors.."


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Aban Rune
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ROTFLMBO!!!
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"ROTFLMBO!!!"

Well, now, we wouldn't want to offend anyone by saying the letter 'A', would we?

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Lee
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How could you say the letter 'A,' Tim?! Don't you know there are children here?!

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Aban Rune
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Hey... I'm a nice guy... would it make you feel better if I said ass?

There.

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uh huhuh.. he said.. 'ass,' beavis..

heheh.. yeah, ass! AAAAASSSS! heheh...

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MM: To repeat Wraith's question, which I've taken quite a liking to, why was the NRA deemed unconstitutional, and what would "unconstitutional" mean in this context, officially and unofficially?

Second, you're a history major and knows next to nothing about the closest years pre- and post-WWII USA, arguably the most important years of events since the Boston Teabagging???

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Masao
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quote:
Originally posted by Nimrod Pimding:
...the Boston Teabagging???

Man, I must have been out sick the day they taught about that.

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