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Whenever we see security or military forces in Trek, with the exceprion of those wierd-ass looking sec force guys in the TOS movies, they wear no protective armour of any type. Even the MACOs in ENT, or Starfleet Ground troops in DS9, both dedicated military forces, dont wear any armour. Wouldn't there be some form of "bullet resistant vest" for them to wear. There are appearently alloys that are weapons resistant in trek, so why not combine them with certain fibers ( which I'm sure can be done by the 22nd,or 23rd century) to make a vest to at least give those guys some form of protection against stun settings? ( I doubt that you would get any protection against a kill setting, just as a bullet resistant vest can not protect you from getting shot in the head.)
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I can't really see armor being that effective. it it gets hit, it boils away &...well.
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This is along the lines of what I was thinking. i know it's non cannon, but it seems sound.
From Rigil Kent's "Endeavour": Vigrid
[He�d been shot, that much was clear, and the reflec-mesh he wore under the modified tac-vest had saved his life once more.
Called a 'twinkle suit' by some more vocal detractors for its distinctive appearance, the mesh was made up of thousands of tiny lenses atop a flexible underlay and immediately brought to mind an obnoxiously sequined shirt. The lenses were meant to absorb and disperse the lethal power of most particle beams, while the underlay was designed to reflect the killing heat of such an attack. Against blunt trauma such as a physical blow or slugthrower, however, the twinkle suit was worse than useless as the shattered lens fragments often became embedded in flesh wounds. MACO black ops had been experimenting with the twinkle suits for several years, but the prohibitively high price tag and the difficulty in maintaining them meant mass production was unlikely.]
It makes sense to me, but I'm probably missing a big and obvious piece of the puzzle
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When I first read the title of this thread, I thought it was going to be a lecture at Starfleet Academy about the importance of wearing condoms when visiting alien planets.
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It's a new course, tought by captain Will Riker, with footnotes from the late Captain James T. Kirk.
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That's because TOS had to wait like a couple decades before someone made the (insert what movie since Star Tripping Troopers) props that got whored around the world...
of course, by the late 2000-2010's, all the sci-fi shows used H.E.Heinlin Prop helms and P-90's...
We are talking about Armor, right?
Hah, if 'Flesh Gordon' was made today, they'd use the prop armor from Starship Troopers, too... maybe, crotch CGI...
quote:Originally posted by Pensive's Wetness: That's because TOS had to wait like a couple decades before someone made the (insert what movie since Star Tripping Troopers) props that got whored around the world...
of course, by the late 2000-2010's, all the sci-fi shows used H.E.Heinlin Prop helms and P-90's...
Not having seen Starship Troopers, I can't say for sure, but how about the "purple-belly" armor made for Firefly? Surely something that specific must have been new...
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All complaining about props aside, it just boggles my mind that starfleet would send their troops in harms way without some form of protection from enemy fire. If the U.S were to send troops into battle without body armour, the Gov't would not hear the end of in. I'm pretty sure someone in the federation cares about the welfare of it's servicemen.
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Keep in mind that a phaser set at maximum can reduce several feet of solid rock to glowing embers, I doubt there's much you can do against that, short of a portable shield generator. As for protection against stun setting; exactly how many engagements have we seen where ANYONE other than Starfleet has gone into combat with phasers on stun?
However, there have been examples of "armour" in use. The Starfleet security guards in the movies are seen wearing large chest pieces and sometimes helmets too. In ST:V the "Federation Soldiers" were equipped with what looked like riot shields and the Starfleet Tactical Soldiers seen on DS9 have what look like a heavy duty uniform, so it could be made of some exotic, layered material that offers more protection than it might appear. The holy grail of armour, after all is something that as strong as a metal plate but light and flexible as cotton. Given that it is science fiction, just because the actor's costumes are made of polyester and cotton, doesn't mean the character's uniforms are.
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