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Well. Looks like the Star Trek name is in front of Enterprise in the main title now. As it should be. Im glad they decided to add it.
Now, if they could do an intremental version of the theme and use the lyrical one for the end credits, that would be great.
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I absolutley abhor that version of the theme song. The one they started with was better. But of course, Rod Stewart's original was slightly better than either.
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I still don't think it's Trek... which brings me to:
I've suddenly realized why this show sucks so much... it's completely laced with that time travel paradox junk. Will happen, will it not, did it happen, did it not? These questions are almost impossible to answer. The Relativity is on such instance, so is the three-nacelled E-D... on and on... time travel episodes just cause great headaches--- but this entire series is based on one... which continues to get worse.
This is the reason it isn't trek. It won't affect the trek we know about. It's another universe separated by temporal interference from the future. Now, it would have been much more easier on the dedicated viewer if they thought about it a little more. I mean just think about it in a way that makes it connect to what we know:
Evil guys from future are messing with the past--- yet it all fits in what we know "could" have happened. Wars break out between all the players... Vulcans vs. Andorians, Humans vs. Suliban, Humans vs. Xindi, [I would prefer the Klingons be left alone]. All this connecting to the fact that the Romulans aren't being attacked by anyone, what does this mean? Only that the evil guys in the future are causing everyone to fight amongst themselves while the Romulans get to prepare for conquest--- of course this would indicate that the Romulans were a lot stronger and harder to beat than we original thought [but that doesn't seem to contridict much]. It would also bring together the separate species for a common purpose, defeat the Romulans [of course it's called the Earth-Romulan war, isn't it? Oh well... perhaps it's the Earth-Romulans war because everyone else didn't want to fight against the Romulans because they were too busy fighting with each other....]. In any case, makes much more sense if the "temporal cold war" was supposed to happen--- but the way it's going now just doesn't seem to fit in with what "will happen." Of course, I am copying from B5 with this idea of something the Federation [of course we've always assumed it was the Earth-Romulan war that helped to create the Federation]. It was the Earth-Mimbari War that lead to the creation of B5, which seemed to more or less be a form of the UN... and later after the Shadow War came the Interstellar Alliance, which seems to be more than the UN but not as close as the Federation because Alliance worlds kept their sovereignty[yeah Vulcan has it's own Ambassadors, and Spock seemed to think that reunification wasn't any of the Federation's business... but I always figured Federation worlds didn't have complete sovereignty].
I'm sorry, I'm ranting... I'm probably off topic... oh well... strong emotions, I think I'm venting from the fact that my computer is dying on me.
-------------------- Later, J _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ The Last Person to post in the late Voyager Forum. Bashing both Voyager, Enterprise, and "The Bun" in one glorious post.
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Because loads of Trekkies - including a significant percentage of Flareites - said in effect "we don't care how bad it is so long as there's a new Star Trek series straight away." Because no matter how bad Voyager got, everyone still watched it. Because to effect an almost total hiatus in Trek production would put a lot of people out of work. Because no-one at Paramount/Viacom wants to be the one who killed the goose that lays the golden egg. Because. . . oh, just because!
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Enterprise sucks... but I don't think I prefer no trek to it. To be honest, I would prefer entertaining stories that fit into every preconception that we've every had about this period--- I feel that would go MUCH further than the current lines, especially if you cut the Suliban and Xindi in favor of a fully counted Romulan threat. Now on the continuity side, all you really have to deal with is BoT, and it's easy to work around and still have face to face encounters! HOW you ask?! Remans! I know, the bat faced idiots from Nemesis were a total let down in the movie because it was supposedly a Romulan movie when it wasn't... but Remans aren't Romulans and we can find out very quickly in the show that fact--- or it can be taken very slowly and we meet a Reman when we were all expecting a Romulan------ BUT noooooooooooo that's all shot to hell now with the Suliban and Xindi. I'm not saying that it won't happen, but sure seems to me that Earth is fighting three separate wars here within the near future:
1) Suliban; instigated by FutureGuy 2) Xindi; instigated by another FutureGuy 3) Romulan; instigated by ??? [we always assumed it was a colonial turf war]
For a planet without a defense net, a planet without enough ships to patrol it's system and prevent an alien vessel from even threatening Earth, a planet with so few ships that it has to be convinced to send an expedition into Xindi space--- these are a lot of wars. In war you lose ships, with the fact that the Suliban are much better equipped and the Xindi & Romulans seem to be better equipped too, it is going to be a miracle if Earth makes it through this. It's even more of a miracle that this period in time wasn't mentioned in full detail like so many others... Earth obviously made it through, and our characters from the 23rd and 24th centuries loved to talk about situations like these. Which brings back the theory that all this temporal war mess has totally screwed up the timeline, which means Enterprise has no effect on the future--- No Account Trek! That's even more frustrating.
Again, it just seems to me that if you simply wrote better you could do better even within a more limited plot frame--- who said the ship has to survive? who said the crew has to survive? And don't think that I'm saying everything has to play into the future--- simple & campy episodes are still welcome, in fact Enterprise has already had some of these that wouldn't have to be changed [I'd list them, but I haven't committed to memory the name and plot of each episode]. Cut the Klingons out of the pilot and make it an Andorian--- gives Archer another piece of ammo to use against the Vulcans when they try to stop him:
"They're in a war with these people, we have to help this man or get dragged into it."
"They're out for their own good, not ours."
Of course, don't ask me about writing the Suliban out of this one--- ah, perhaps use the Orion Syndicate instead [was it ever established that the Syndicate was alien run or human run?]? Spend five more minutes thinking about it, it's not just hindesight, what Enterprise has given us is a whole lot of stuff that won't count for the future... and while at first it was, it's now losing it's entertainment value compared to better written shows. If more thought had been point into this, the show would be much much much better than it is, three years in.
Oh well... I'm going to stop now, I'm rambling again.
-------------------- Later, J _ _ _ _ _ ___ _ _ _ _ _ The Last Person to post in the late Voyager Forum. Bashing both Voyager, Enterprise, and "The Bun" in one glorious post.
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I used to be like that, thinking a mediocre Trek is better than no Trek at all. Well, at first, because of circumstances beyond my control, I missed half of the first season of Enterprise, and then all of its reruns in the summer. And when the next season rolled around, I had no desire to return to it at all. And then I decided to stop watching TV altogether, since Trek was one of the last things I watched regularly. Now that I've gotten out of my dependence on weekly Star Trek, I see that a few years' hiatus would be the best way to go. From what I've seen and heard, Star Trek has lost its soul, and its creators could really use a rest in order to recreate the franchise. If descreasing viewership is what takes to do that, so be it.
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Wow. A bunch of assholes derailed my thread to cry about how they dont like Enterprise because they are too busy being fattass virgin nerds and how the romulans are supposed to be fighting the federation and OH NOS B&B FUCK UP AGAIN, THINK ABOUT THE FANS!!!. I like enterprise, and if you dont, why the flying FUCK are you in this thread, or even sub-forum. Theres no fucking point. Expecially if all you've seen is part of season 1.
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... you may have been unbanned from SA, but you won't find that much luck here. Watch the tongue, eh?
BTW, Tim - Ex-Member == deleted due to inactivity, not banned.
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