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Somebody posted photos of the filming so I guess they were forced to react.
We'll have to wait in which year Season 2 is set and if the captain stripes make sense in that context. But I don't have high hopes. It's more likely they make the same mistake as with DISC. Doing a prequel but rejecting the limitations of a prequel.
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I’m not surprised they’re doing this. I was expecting it to happen much later, say in the last season and have an extended handoff from Pike to Kirk.
I *am* surprised that he’s wearing Captain’s stripes, but maybe he’s not going to be part of the actual Enterprise crew yet. The original TOS writers guide did say that Kirk was captain of a smaller ship before the 1701, after all. We’ll have to wait and see.
The main contradiction to previous episodes is (1) the line in “The Menagerie” where Kirk said that he *met* Pike “when he was promoted to fleet captain” but never said he served with him, and (2) Kirk’s general demeanor talking to Pike as someone who didn’t have a strong personal stake or relationship, unlike Spock.
But if you’re going to complain about that, you might as well just not watch the show. This is no different from Disco establishing previously unmentioned family connections and catastrophic planet-occupying wars. It’s the kind of story that fits the general narrative but ignores certain very specific (and potentially obscure) details. I don’t think anyone should be surprised.
That being said, I was kinda hoping that SNW would be more of its own story with its own characters rather than relying on Those Old Scientists to bring in viewers by name recognition alone. Again, I’m not surprised after they added Uhura, Chapel, M’Benga, and the ridiculously named La’an Noonien-Singh. So yeah, it’s pretty clear that SNW is being actively written as a TOS lead-in origin story. Sigh.
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Yeah, all of that.
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I loved that idea since I first heard it, but realistically I can’t see any way it could be done without becoming a running joke in a show that is meant to be a drama not a comedy. And a joke that would probably fall flat, at that. The analogy I keep thinking of are the two desk sergeants in “Hot Fuzz,” both played by Bill Bailey as presumably twins - but with subtle differences (and ones you can easily miss, to boot - like one is reading an Iain Banks novel, while the other reads an Iain M. Banks novel - until you could watch and pause on disk or demand) that go unremarked upon and the gag, that it’s not one man but two, when revealed at the end is almost blink-and-you-miss-it.
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