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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Apparently you never check your PM's so PLEASE CHECK IT NOW! Or, if you just don't have the image readily available, at least say so. I'm really anxious to see it!

-MMoM

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Shik
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Good GODDESS, boy...take your hands off your nuts, would ya? DAMN...

You ARE correct, I do not check my PMs because I'm unimportant enough to not get them, so I don't bother. I've been busy with things like work, sleep, & committing minor felonies. But it's finally up.

Here. It's no different, just easier to read. Mind you, there is once modifcation: Aelrehn V is not a "real" planet. It's up near the Ferengis & the First Federation.

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Sorry. I was just going crazy trying to read that tiny little one...

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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So, Axanar is near the Klingon Border. Does this mean the Battle of Axanar was against the Klingons?

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Shik
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What am I, fuckin' Kreskin?

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I like.....
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What I like is that Vulcan and Andor are at least two sectors apart. So much for the Andorians being from a neighboring system.

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I dont think the map has much credence given all the developments lately.. they should keep things vague, so i say all maps are out (they are contradictory anyway)

and those cubes are a lot bigger than sectors.. each one is the size of hundreds of sectors

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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Do you only consider the person who lives right next to you to be your neighbor? Personally, I'd call someone who lived a ways down my street who I knew my neghbor. They live in my neighborhood, don't they?
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Yeah but do you consider the guy who lives on the side street off the main street of which you live on another side street your neighbor too?

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Depends on what scale you're talking about. He's more a neighbour to you than, say, I am.

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I could still even believe Vulcan and Andor considering each other neighbors and being on opposite sides of us.
We just consider them to be far apart because we have no way to cross that distance at that point. They *can* go a lot faster than us

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The way they said it in the episode was something like "the Andorians live in a neighboring system to Vulcan". In that sort of context, it would suggest that the systems are rather close.
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The Mighty Monkey of Mim
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Well, they are. If you look at the map (which specifically is a "local area" map) ALL of these systems are relatively near each other. There's no reason why Andor/ia and Vulcan can't be in the positions shown, and still be called "neighboring systems."

Keep in mind, the Vulcans have been out there exploring for a long time already in ENT's timeframe. Their sphere of influence probably includes much of the surrounding space. Just because Vulcan and Andor/ia aren't RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER doesn't mean that they're not neighbors, or that the space controlled by each isn't close together.

And I'll remind everyone, while this particular map hasn't appeared onscreen as yet, an earlier version was seen in "Conspiracy"(TNG), and in several different episodes of DS9, in Keiko O'Brien's schoolroom. That map showed Vulcan and Andor in exactly the same locations as this one. And it is undeniably CANON.

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quote:
an earlier version was seen in "Conspiracy"(TNG), and in several different episodes of DS9, in Keiko O'Brien's schoolroom. That map showed Vulcan and Andor in exactly the same locations as this one. And it is undeniably CANON.

Well, judging by overall legibility, no more or less Canon than top secret Hamsterdrive technology.

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